Should Jamestown be accepted into the NSIC?

[zimmy21]

Well we all knew changes were coming, and the conference was falling apart, if the North Dakota schools leave I won't shed a tear, but makes you wonder what else is coming down the pipeline.

I still have yet to see a reason why Jamestown should be added.

[NSU4LIFE]

http://web1.ncaa.org/committees/comm...mitteeName=2PC

I pushback on that notion. Why give up that position? If they're waiting until 2026 fall, who knows how competitive Mary and Minot could be by then. If both are considering leaving, Jamestown moving to NSIC makes little sense for all parties. According to wikipedia, The University of Jamestown is a private Christian university.

As with any of the info I get/share I would be much more assuring if it was something concrete or for sure going to happen. I don't know anything to be more true or false, I'm just saying more than one family mentioned that without me directly bring it up.

On the main topic, a lot of the NSU older alum were more than open to Jamestown joining, mainly because they are happy for their AD who was at NSU. Never was able to talk to the AD, not that he would give me any good nuggets anyways.

[zimmy21]

http://web1.ncaa.org/committees/comm...mitteeName=2PC

I pushback on that notion. Why give up that position? If they're waiting until 2026 fall, who knows how competitive Mary and Minot could be by then. If both are considering leaving, Jamestown moving to NSIC makes little sense for all parties. According to wikipedia, The University of Jamestown is a private Christian university.

That term expires in a year and 2 months. They would only need to stay D2 through next year. I would imagine there's a process that needs to take place to switch to the GPAC anyway

[zimmy21]

It's quite wild but that's what I was directly told

Well it's no wonder they struggle then if that's the pitch

[NSU4LIFE]

That is interesting, "Hey come here kid kid play for us, we're dropping levels to be competitive! You're the right stuff, just what we need in the NAIA"

It's quite wild but that's what I was directly told

[zimmy21]

If Mary leaves, NBD. 12 football and 14 overall is a fine conference. Makes a nice easy silo schedule for the conference to make, where you'd actually get to play everyone every year.

[zimmy21]

Perhaps, but after talking to as many as I have, it's definitely at the very least, some yhing that is being pursued. Including a freshman family who was recruited by Mary and was told as much

That is interesting, "Hey come here kid kid play for us, we're dropping levels to be competitive! You're the right stuff, just what we need in the NAIA"

[NSU4LIFE]

GPAC wouldn't take a public school, faith based league.

Perhaps, but after talking to as many as I have, it's definitely at the very least, some yhing that is being pursued. Including a freshman family who was recruited by Mary and was told as much

[vikingfaithful]

GPAC could take Mary. Voila! back to an even number.

[laker]

GPAC wouldn't take a public school, faith based league.

I was told that also by one of the league experts. He said it would be unlikely that they would take a public school, even one like Dakota State which could fit in geographically.

[oldyellaHer69]

Fun insight from the weekend.

What I was told or atleast what was said by many is that Mary and Minot are looking to move to the GPAC.

Obviously, I don't necessarily believe it, but i was sworn to that it is a thing

GPAC wouldn't take a public school, faith based league.

[NSU4LIFE]

Fun insight from the weekend.

What I was told or atleast what was said by many is that Mary and Minot are looking to move to the GPAC.

Obviously, I don't necessarily believe it, but i was sworn to that it is a thing

[HardRockin'Nerd]

You got lumped in together because Mary, like Mines is doing/has done, is actually investing in their sports right now and it's starting to show results-wise.

The 5-4 transitional USF team I played on wasn't very good if we're being honest but we rolled Mines by 70 points. That's my personal lasting memory of SD Mines although I know things have changed dramatically. Appreciate the insight though because although I know a few alums, Mines and BH might as well be in other states. They're just not talked about or heard about much over here. Not a dig, just reality.

I might have misread your original comment then. I instinctively bristle when being thought of in the same vain as Mary when we’re objectively a better program at least since the D2 transition. I also don’t know about Mary’s investment because it hasn’t shown in football yet.

Completely agree on the different state thing, East River folk typically don’t care about anything not in central time (Winner is East River in spirit imo). Hopefully, we’ll start recruiting SF more. I wish that we could play y’all, Augie, and Northern more often, because I think that it would show y’all just how much the program has improved since our putrid NAIA days.

[HardRockin'Nerd]

Can't imagine the Dakota school would be bappy

I don’t think we’d have too much of a problem with it. They bring a great complete program, and the drive is comparable to Highlands or Ft. Lewis. Back when the artist formerly known as Dixie State was in the RMAC.. that drive sucked

[Otis Day]

A couple of things here. This is mainly centered around football as I’m less familiar with the basketball situation. Mary was the first to go up from the DAC back around 05. They were a powerhouse/top team in the conference every year. Minot was a mid pack team most of the time but was higher up towards the DACs collapse which I think helped them tag along with USF to the NSIC.

I don’t know what exact comparison you’re driving with lumping us in with Mary on the transitional commitment. It’s a night and day difference in Rapid. I will admit that basketball hasn’t been great especially on the girls side since Felderman was forced out by an idiot AD, but the football programs are worlds apart. SD Mines now is a completely different program from the NAIA/transition days which was the last time we played y’all back in 2011 I believe. Historically, aside from a couple years in the 80s and an outlier in 2010, we were an awful program. Since pretty much my sophomore year back in 2016, we’ve been a competent competitive program which is miles ahead of where we were and far better than Mary. We’ve never had perennial cellar dweller status as a D2. I think with both Colorado Mines poaching engineers and other schools not having academic requirements that winning the RMAC will be rough, but I do believe that a playoff berth isn’t completely out of the question at some point.

I’ll even defend BH here. Since Breske came in, they’ve been getting far better as well. They finally have a staff that can point out to recruits that Spearfish is an objectively better place to be than Chadron, and this is showing in the results as Chadron has fallen off as a program.

Point being, in the end y’all got the worse end of the deal in old DAC teams. Y’all can take Jamestown when the North Star collapses. I’d say we’d take Dickinson, but my guess is that they hop over to the Frontier rather than go D2.

You got lumped in together because Mary, like Mines is doing/has done, is actually investing in their sports right now and it's starting to show results-wise.

The 5-4 transitional USF team I played on wasn't very good if we're being honest but we rolled Mines by 70 points. That's my personal lasting memory of SD Mines although I know things have changed dramatically. Appreciate the insight though because although I know a few alums, Mines and BH might as well be in other states. They're just not talked about or heard about much over here. Not a dig, just reality.