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Sincere Carry would have been the best player to ever wear the black and gold. Worked out for him I guess
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Originally posted by boatcapt View Post
I would imagine that they are friend(ly) with each other due to their long relationship. But I would also imagine that Ben has to be quietly miffed a little at Crutch. I mane, on his way out of the WLU door Crutch took WLU's All-American PG Dave Dennis and convinced First Team All-State and WLU comitted SG Nick Smith to flip to Nova. Then this year All-Potential SG Will Yoakum transfers from WLU to Nova and procedes to have an injury free season were he starts all 35 games, leads the team in scoring and shoots over 500 from 3. Ben probably will never admit it, but I would bet at least once he had to think...DAMB Crutch, get your OWN players and stop taking mine!!!
Quick aside...Imagine this years team with Butler, Yoakum and Robinson (who could have staid for his graduate season).
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Kobe Mitchell of Akron is in the portal. Ohio Valley kid that went to Harrison Central. Would be a great add
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Originally posted by IUP Extra Mile View PostBeen forever since I posted...I've always been lurking...
I know the story about crutch leaving, ben taking over etc, etc...
but what I want to know is--- Does anyone know if Ben and Crutch are true friends? Should be bc of the time spent playing for him and on staff...but I wonder if the fact that some WL fellas transfer to Nova SE, and Ben doesn't like it or considers it tampering? Crutch still recruits Ohio it looks like....I know they are both competitiors, but are they "civil" to each other? I want to know the dyamic if they do play each other....PLease shed some light on it...Really interesting story line if they both make the final....but my guess is they don't...upsets happen...
Quick aside...Imagine this years team with Butler, Yoakum and Robinson (who could have staid for his graduate season).
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Originally posted by Columbuseer View PostTo be clear, wlu advancing is anything but a given. However I think Nova has a tougher road in terms of matchups.
As great as those past teams were, i like the fact we have 5 shutdown guards on this team and everyone is unselfish. Many opposing teams' offense is built on outstanding guard play. We now have the guards to stay in front of them, which is a critical factor, especially if we are not shooting well. IUP had only 0.89 points per possession, amazing for such a talented team.
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Originally posted by Columbuseer View PostTo be clear, wlu advancing is anything but a given. However I think Nova has a tougher road in terms of matchups.
As great as those past teams were, i like the fact we have 5 shutdown guards on this team and everyone is unselfish. Many opposing teams' offense is built on outstanding guard play. We now have the guards to stay in front of them, which is a critical factor, especially if we are not shooting well. IUP had only 0.89 points per possession, amazing for such a talented team.
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To be clear, wlu advancing is anything but a given. However I think Nova has a tougher road in terms of matchups.
As great as those past teams were, i like the fact we have 5 shutdown guards on this team and everyone is unselfish. Many opposing teams' offense is built on outstanding guard play. We now have the guards to stay in front of them, which is a critical factor, especially if we are not shooting well. IUP had only 0.89 points per possession, amazing for such a talented team.
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Originally posted by TopperNation View Post
I agree with you Boat, from top to bottom that 20-21 team might be the most talented team I've seen since I first attempted to transfer there and started tracking the team in 2003. That 2014 WLU team can go toe to toe with anyone.
If I were looking to build a team to play the true "WLU Style," I'd look at that team.
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Originally posted by boatcapt View Post
I agree...Not the most talented Topper team but they are peaking at the right time. As the saying goes in tourney play..It's not as important to be the "best" team as it is to be the best team "right now." Seeding is equally important in a tourney. We learned that in the 20-21 Elite 8 when we drew NWMSU. I like how the seeding is breaking for the Toppers this year.
Concerning the "most talented" Topper team, a great case can be made for the 20-21 team that had current D1 players Dalton Bolon, Pat Robinson, current Nova SE leader Will Yoakum, current WLU star Bryce Butler and WAY underrated PG Luke Dyer. Bench that included McKinney, Moore and Rasile, etc wasn't half bad either!!
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Originally posted by TopperNation View PostThis is not the most talented WL squad, but man this is lining up for my guys to at least reach the finals! I just got my hotel and tickets to the elite 8, now let's just hope that they get a good seeding and good playing time. I'm going to lose my sh..t if Ben starts pressing and it doesn't work and he continues to do it until WL is down 15, I have flashbacks of 2 years ago vs NWMS!!!!
Concerning the "most talented" Topper team, a great case can be made for the 20-21 team that had current D1 players Dalton Bolon, Pat Robinson, current Nova SE leader Will Yoakum, current WLU star Bryce Butler and WAY underrated PG Luke Dyer. Bench that included McKinney, Moore and Rasile, etc wasn't half bad either!!
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Originally posted by Layton View Post2 West Liberty vs 7 New Haven March 21 3:30 pm
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FYI - Season Stat comparison WLU vs New Haven
New Haven has good shooters, who can create their shot off a high ball screen or drive to basket.
Their 7-1 center has good timing for rebounding and shot blocking. He can disrupt interior offense for opponent.
It will be interesting to see if he guards Butler or just provides help defense.
Note: Offensive Rating is independent of whether a team plays fast or slow.
Statistic West Liberty Season New Haven Season FGM 1237 836 FGA 2495 1815 FTA 679 454 Three Point FGM 423 237 three Point FGA 1110 712 OFF REB 433 240 Assists 753 396 Turnovers 390 348 Steals 367 170 Turnovers Forced 651 314 Points 3404 2254 Games Played 34 33 Number of Possessions 2751 2123 Avg. Possessions per Game 81 64 Pts per Possession 1.24 1.06 Offensive Rating - pts/100 possessions 124 106 Shooting Efficiency (FGM +0.5*3ptFGM)/FGA 58.1% 52.6% Turnover % 14.2% 16.4% Forced Turnovers per Game 19.1 9.5 Percent Forced Live Ball Turnovers 56.4% 54.1% Assists % of Possessions 27.4% 18.7% Assist to Turnover Ratio 1.93 1.14 Last edited by Columbuseer; 03-15-2023, 10:07 PM.
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