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There is a good article in The Buffalo News about Armoni's transfer to Buffalo.
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There's one big player left unsigned from the WPIAL (Jake DeMichele) but I don't think IUP went after him.
He has offers from West Liberty and a slew of other PSAC and MEC schools. I get the impression he was holding out for a D1 offer.
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Not much of a secret anymore but I'd say it's 99.9% confirmed that Ousmane Diop has decided to return to IUP.
So, that puts the roster as of today at 14 players. The post is set. I could still see them add a transfer guard.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
Depending how deep you want to dive in to this, it could easily be argued Armoni had a better resume, overall, than the others on that list.
Three years:
(3) PSAC Championships
(3) West titles
(1) Regional Title
(1) Final Four
?????* Unfortunately maybe the best team of his three years got shut down the week of the Regional due to the pandemic.
All American
97-9 record as a starter
His team had Regional hosting rights all three years he started.
I know there are some big names up there, but his resume is tough to beat. And, he played the final 3 months this year with a broken right hand.
A few you listed aren't in the same air with him, career-wise. Cobo, for instance, was a beast but his team's won just (2) NCAA games in four years.
Regardless, the majority of that list will all get in. But, Armoni should definitely be a 'first ballot' guy.Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostI'd add Joe isn't in the conversation yet. However, Dante is. Obviously, Joe is in and should have the street named after him.
Does Anthony Glover get in the mix? Recall Anthony was the star of the famous 'island of misfit toys' team.
Dante has a mountain of stats but few NCAA wins. He did win a PSAC title his senior year. But ... his first three years weren't HOF level.
But, suffice, Dante will get in (and, should). If Wes Layton is in, Dante is a no-brainer.
Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostBasketball is a team sport and the PG runs the show. Armoni's W/L is incredible.
You could argue Dante had similar stats to Armoni ... but that comparison ends there. Really quick. Both great careers, but ...
Maybe I'm not making my question clear.
We're talking about the hall of fame and your suggestion that Foster get in "immediately." Induction is almost entirely based on individualindividual career is worthy of IUP administration waiving the 10-year waiting period?
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Is there any criteria for IUP Hall of Fame? At Bloom nominees must be out of school 10 years.
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Originally posted by Matt Burglund View Post
I wasn't suggesting those guys had better careers than him. Well, Webb did. I was just questioning the suggestion to waive the 10-year waiting period for Foster.
Other than being an All-American, those accomplishments you listed for are team achievements.
Webb scored more points than Foster, was the national player of the year, won more West titles and played in the same number of Final Fours as him, but he had to wait 11 years to get in.
You could argue Dante had similar stats to Armoni ... but that comparison ends there. Really quick. Both great careers, but ...
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I'd add Joe isn't in the conversation yet. However, Dante is. Obviously, Joe is in and should have the street named after him.
Does Anthony Glover get in the mix? Recall Anthony was the star of the famous 'island of misfit toys' team.
Dante has a mountain of stats but few NCAA wins. He did win a PSAC title his senior year. But ... his first three years weren't HOF level.
But, suffice, Dante will get in (and, should). If Wes Layton is in, Dante is a no-brainer.
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Originally posted by Matt Burglund View Post
I wasn't suggesting those guys had better careers than him. Well, Webb did. I was just questioning the suggestion to waive the 10-year waiting period for Foster.
Other than being an All-American, those accomplishments you listed for are team achievements.
Webb scored more points than Foster, was the national player of the year, won more West titles and played in the same number of Final Fours as him, but he had to wait 11 years to get in.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
Depending how deep you want to dive in to this, it could easily be argued Armoni had a better resume, overall, than the others on that list.
Three years:
(3) PSAC Championships
(3) West titles
(1) Regional Title
(1) Final Four
?????* Unfortunately maybe the best team of his three years got shut down the week of the Regional due to the pandemic.
All American
97-9 record as a starter
His team had Regional hosting rights all three years he started.
I know there are some big names up there, but his resume is tough to beat. And, he played the final 3 months this year with a broken right hand.
A few you listed aren't in the same air with him, career-wise. Cobo, for instance, was a beast but his team's won just (2) NCAA games in four years.
Regardless, the majority of that list will all get in. But, Armoni should definitely be a 'first ballot' guy.
Other than being an All-American, those accomplishments you listed for are team achievements.
Webb scored more points than Foster, was the national player of the year, won more West titles and played in the same number of Final Fours as him, but he had to wait 11 years to get in.
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Originally posted by Matt Burglund View Post
Ahead of...
Cobo Diaz?
Brandon Norfleet?
Julian Sanders?
Ashton Smith?
Derrick Freeman?
Malik Miller?
Devon Cottrell?
Devante Chance?
Marcel Souberbielle?
Thomas Young?
Joe Lombardi?
None of them are in. Darryl Webb will go in this fall.
Three years:
(3) PSAC Championships
(3) West titles
(1) Regional Title
(1) Final Four
?????* Unfortunately maybe the best team of his three years got shut down the week of the Regional due to the pandemic.
All American
97-9 record as a starter
His team had Regional hosting rights all three years he started.
I know there are some big names up there, but his resume is tough to beat. And, he played the final 3 months this year with a broken right hand.
A few you listed aren't in the same air with him, career-wise. Cobo, for instance, was a beast but his team's won just (2) NCAA games in four years.
Regardless, the majority of that list will all get in. But, Armoni should definitely be a 'first ballot' guy.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostI hope IUP doesn't sit around for 10 years on the Hall of Fame. He should go in immediately.
Cobo Diaz?
Brandon Norfleet?
Julian Sanders?
Ashton Smith?
Derrick Freeman?
Malik Miller?
Devon Cottrell?
Devante Chance?
Marcel Souberbielle?
Thomas Young?
Joe Lombardi?
None of them are in. Darryl Webb will go in this fall.
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Here's the known 2022-23 roster as of today:
Guards
David Morris
Shawndale Jones
Dallis Dillard
Kyle Polce
Jaheim Bethea
Forwards
Damir Brooks
Tomiwa Sulaiman
Ethan Porterfield
Dolan Waldo
Callum MacNamara
Nolan Burk
Utility
Enrique Cordon
K.J. Rhodes
That's (13) as of today. I'd guess MacNamara, Cordon and Burk are questionable to return -- especially considering they are still actively pursuing a couple transfers. Burk was a walk-on last year. It's possible MacNamara and Cordon were getting a couple bucks.
I'd still like to add a PG and another forward.
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