Iup basketball

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Here's Sancomb's side of the story:

https://fightingfalcons.com/news/201...t-liberty.aspx


Can't seem to find the video on Youtube ... gotta be on there somewhere.

I've looked and I can't find it anymore either. But in the days after the game, I reviewed in at least 20 times. I actually loaded it into a video forensics program we had at work which let me do all sort of things (ultra slow, enhance areas, amplify background sounds, etc). It was close but clear even in "normal" mode...clear space between Gross's fingertip and the ball as the clock ticks to .00 and then a very small fraction of a second (actually 2 hundreds of a second...that's how powerful this video program is!) the horn sounded.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Here's Sancomb's side of the story:

https://fightingfalcons.com/news/201...t-liberty.aspx


Can't seem to find the video on Youtube ... gotta be on there somewhere.

[boatcapt]

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You guys realize how hard that is in real time to get that call right? To this day one half of that gym says the bucket was good and the other half says it wasn't. You're talking fractions of a second and tips of fingers releasing a ball -- at full speed. Does video of it not exist?

Boswell's banked-in, semi-corner three is just as amazing. He could shoot that 100 times and may not make it again.

Nobody watching that live could definitively make that call without guessing. To my memory they did have a monitor on the scorers' table. Remember they immediately froze the broadcast and all you could hear was the announcers saying it was no good and WJ had won. Then radio silence.

That's just it, the refs DID make the right call at first...Then changed their mind. Yes, there was video that clearly shows the clock ticking down the last second and light is clearly visible between Gross's fingertip and the ball with the clock at .01. Was it a bang-bang play? Sure was. But the point is that they got it right initially, then bowed to pressure changing the call even in the face of definitive video.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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I don't recall the specific issues with the video. What I recall is that the refs originally called the shot off before the buzzer/clock hit zero which obviously kicked off a wild celebration. Sancomb then began "lobbying" with the refs at the scorers table and after a few minutes, the refs changed their minds, said the shot was not off before the buzzer and IMMEDIATELY sprinted for the locker room! I think I recall them looking at a monitor at the scorers table but I could be confusing another game with this one.

Bottom line, refs made the right call initially, they fell pray to coach lobbying and changed their call to the wrong call which was clearly shown on video. Clearly WLU was robbed! Had it not been for that fraudulent call, they would have won another regional title and perhaps their first NC.

You guys realize how hard that is in real time to get that call right? To this day one half of that gym says the bucket was good and the other half says it wasn't. You're talking fractions of a second and tips of fingers releasing a ball -- at full speed. Does video of it not exist?

Boswell's banked-in, semi-corner three is just as amazing. He could shoot that 100 times and may not make it again.

Nobody watching that live could definitively make that call without guessing. To my memory they did have a monitor on the scorers' table. Remember they immediately froze the broadcast and all you could hear was the announcers saying it was no good and WJ had won. Then radio silence.

[boatcapt]

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Am I remembering correctly that they weren't actually allowed to use video replay? I thought it was a situation where the conference had disallowed video replay (because of spotty video coverage and limited camera angles), so the refs were huddling simply to talk about what they saw "live." I could be mistaken about that. But I thought I remembered that the real controversy was that the video showed he got it off, but the refs never saw the video. I'm not sure. It's entirely possible I might have made up that entire context just to rationalize it in my mind. Maybe IUPbig can ask his buddy Bruce.

I don't recall the specific issues with the video. What I recall is that the refs originally called the shot off before the buzzer/clock hit zero which obviously kicked off a wild celebration. Sancomb then began "lobbying" with the refs at the scorers table and after a few minutes, the refs changed their minds, said the shot was not off before the buzzer and IMMEDIATELY sprinted for the locker room! I think I recall them looking at a monitor at the scorers table but I could be confusing another game with this one.

Bottom line, refs made the right call initially, they fell pray to coach lobbying and changed their call to the wrong call which was clearly shown on video. Clearly WLU was robbed! Had it not been for that fraudulent call, they would have won another regional title and perhaps their first NC.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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And still their only home loss all year.

All the more ammunition to serve up to the league's most whiney player tonight.

[ironmaniup]

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Forgot about this little memory:

REFS 78 UPJ 67

And still their only home loss all year.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Forgot about this little memory:

REFS 78 UPJ 67

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Is he legitimately your buddy? Lol


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Yeah I've known him since college.

[IUP24]

Do conferences ever share refs? I was at the WLU/Wesleyan game earlier this season, and there was an unfamiliar crew with a hair gel looking guy who seemed to take himself WAY too seriously. I couldn't help but wonder if the MEC had borrowed a terrible PSAC crew for a game. Is that likely? Or does the MEC have its own GQ fellow that I just hadn't seen before?

Every conference has a GQ guy on a crew. No doubt. Need a hair gel model to liven things up.


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[IUP24]

No. Bruce is a tall black guy with a shaved head. Typically the best official in the PSAC. The GQ hair gel model is in his crew, however.

Is he legitimately your buddy? Lol


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Do conferences ever share refs? I was at the WLU/Wesleyan game earlier this season, and there was an unfamiliar crew with a hair gel looking guy who seemed to take himself WAY too seriously. I couldn't help but wonder if the MEC had borrowed a terrible PSAC crew for a game. Is that likely? Or does the MEC have its own GQ fellow that I just hadn't seen before?

The PSAC and MEC officials are extremely different. The PSAC officials call EVERY THING.

When IUP played at Fairmont this year it was nuts. They let every thing go ...

Fairmont saw that up here last year.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Do conferences ever share refs? I was at the WLU/Wesleyan game earlier this season, and there was an unfamiliar crew with a hair gel looking guy who seemed to take himself WAY too seriously. I couldn't help but wonder if the MEC had borrowed a terrible PSAC crew for a game. Is that likely? Or does the MEC have its own GQ fellow that I just hadn't seen before?

You'll know them. They think the whole crowd is there to see them. Every game we have that crew has double the fouls called. Hair Gel is very quick-triggered with the technical -- particularly toward Lombardi. He's probably 35-40 years old.

[Scrub]

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No. Bruce is a tall black guy with a shaved head. Typically the best official in the PSAC. The GQ hair gel model is in his crew, however.

Do conferences ever share refs? I was at the WLU/Wesleyan game earlier this season, and there was an unfamiliar crew with a hair gel looking guy who seemed to take himself WAY too seriously. I couldn't help but wonder if the MEC had borrowed a terrible PSAC crew for a game. Is that likely? Or does the MEC have its own GQ fellow that I just hadn't seen before?

[Scrub]

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If I recall correctly the Hail Mary shot that got waived off came right after Preston Boswell banked in a three.

That's HILLTOPPER PRESTON BOSWELL to you, sir. ; )

I admit it might be hard for the first few minutes of next year's opener to cheer for that guy after he was a major pain in our arse for two years. But, I suspect one clutch three will have us cheering for him in no time!