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  • Re: Transfers

    Originally posted by boatcapt View Post
    Don't know what the "rules" are for calling a private school a University... .

    The term university has become somewhat blurry since around 2000. In the 20th century, it had an implication of size of the school and the variety of academic majors. A unversity consisted of various colleges , such Arts and Sciences, College of Engineering, College of Medicine, etc. IMHO, somewhere along the way, smaller schools thought that the term university had more cachet and prestige. Practically all of the old WVIAC conference schools were colleges.
    Here are some dates of the name change from college to university
    1961 - Marshall College
    1976 - Morris Harvey -> U. of Charleston (Morris Harvey fell on hard times after Vietnam and offered the school to the federal government as a gift, but they refused! Then they changed their name). They offered their first graduate program only in 2006.
    1996 - Wheeling Jesuit College (prior to Jesuit in 1987, it was called Wheeling College)
    2004 Concord, wv state, Fairmont State, Shepherd
    2005 Ohio Valley
    2008 West Liberty
    2013 Alderson Broaddus

    Remaining colleges in their name are WV Wesleyan, Glenville State, Davis and Elkins, to name a few.

    BTW, WJU offers only 1 Doctorate program, which is in physical therapy.

    It should be noted that some colleges offer advanced degrees but have kept their name, like the College of William and Mary, M.I.T., etc.


    State of New Jersey has attempted to define university for licensure purposes, which aligns with my impression of a true university.
    While some may think the terms are interchangeable (and outside of the United States, they often are), certain states like New Jersey have posted guidelines on the licensure of institutions of higher education. Their parameters specify how "college" is defined.Its definition follows:
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    "College," "institution," or "institution of higher education" means a postsecondary educational institution that provides instruction beyond the 12th grade level in programs that satisfy the requirements for a degree at the associate, baccalaureate [aka bachelor's], or graduate level, and which, with the exception of institutions that have a specialty mission, offers a range of degree programs.

    And "university":
    "University" means an institution of higher education that provides undergraduate studies leading to the baccalaureate degree in a broad range of academic disciplines, as well as graduate studies leading to advanced degrees in at least three academic and/or professional fields.While some may think the terms are interchangeable (and outside of the United States, they often are), certain states like New Jersey have posted guidelines on the licensure of institutions of higher education. Their parameters specify how "college" is defined:

    "College," "institution," or "institution of higher education" means a postsecondary educational institution that provides instruction beyond the 12th grade level in programs that satisfy the requirements for a degree at the associate, baccalaureate [aka bachelor's], or graduate level, and which, with the exception of institutions that have a specialty mission, offers a range of degree programs.

    And "university":
    "University" means an institution of higher education that provides undergraduate studies leading to the baccalaureate degree in a broad range of academic disciplines, as well as graduate studies leading to advanced degrees in at least three academic and/or professional fields.
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    • Re: Transfers

      Two more WJ defections ... Dowery and Canaady

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      • Re: Transfers

        Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
        Two more WJ defections ... Dowery and Canaady
        Wow. Now top 5 scorers gone from this year (all undergrads) and 92.6% of the scoring including transfers and graduation. With the financial uncertainty, I cannot really blame them. Hopefully, they can get equivalent financial aid somewhere else. It raises the question of non-basketball and non athletic transfer numbers.
        Also question: How can WJU restrict the transfer of these athletes in any way (like they did Boswell), given they are only giving assurances to stay open for one more year? It would really look bad for them if they did.
        Last edited by Columbuseer; 05-28-2019, 04:05 PM.

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        • Re: Transfers

          Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
          Danny got snake-bit with the injury bug last year. He was playing 5 guys there for a stretch. They'll be pretty good this year. He's a proven winner ... just a matter of time.
          The only advantage of the injury bug is experience. 88% of the CAL U playing time was shared by 3 FR, 2JR and 1SO. Barring more injuries the team is very young and very experienced. Hoping they start to turn the corner this year with the addition of a large and apparently talented incoming class. Time will tell.

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          • Re: Transfers

            Originally posted by Columbuseer View Post
            Wow. Now top 5 scorers gone from this year (all undergrads) and 92.6% of the scoring including transfers and graduation. With the financial uncertainty, I cannot really blame them. Hopefully, they can get equivalent financial aid somewhere else. It raises the question of non-basketball and non athletic transfer numbers.
            Also question: How can WJU restrict the transfer of these athletes in any way (like they did Boswell), given they are only giving assurances to stay open for one more year? It would really look bad for them if they did.
            Canaady will get some interest immediately.

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            • Re: Transfers

              I know in WLUs case there was a state review and approval process before they became a University. I woulda presume that is for all public colleges/universities in WV but not necessarily for privates like WU, UC and AB.

              Given the situation at WU, id be a little surprised if they didnt release the players wo restrictions. Say what you will about Peckenpaugh but his year at WU showed could recruit and get his players to play quickly. Had all theis not happened, he probably would have had WU back near the top of the MEC and SR1 quickly!
              Last edited by boatcapt; 05-28-2019, 06:45 PM.

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              • Re: Transfers

                Former Mercyhurst guard, Ellis, headed to Flagler.

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                • Re: Transfers

                  WU G JOSHUA FOOTE RS FR is transferring per VERBAL COMMITS D2.

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                  • Re: Transfers

                    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
                    Canaady will get some interest immediately.
                    Leaving per VC D2.'

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                    • Re: Transfers

                      Originally posted by CALUPA69 View Post
                      Leaving per VC D2.'
                      Yes, I read he's also looking to go D1.

                      ... 'looking' probably being the key word.

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                      • Re: Transfers

                        McClide latest leaving WJ.

                        Anybody that still has some eligibility left on here ... may want to give it a look for next year.

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                        • Re: Transfers

                          In today's wow news... Calipari is LEAVING Kentucky!!! Yes, it's TRUE! Brad Calipari is transferring out of Kentucky. (The wow was sarcasm).

                          Wonder how dinners at home are gonna be?

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                          • Re: Transfers

                            Former ND player Maurice Carroll headed to Frostburg State.

                            Mass exodous at Concord continues with two more leaving town.

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                            • Re: Transfers

                              Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
                              Former ND player Maurice Carroll headed to Frostburg State.

                              Mass exodous at Concord continues with two more leaving town.
                              Re Concord:
                              Jair Rogers was 20 ppg that transferred to Florida Southern.
                              The other 3 might reasonably fall under the category of "culling the herd" - two were buried at end of bench, playing only 7 games and averaging < 1 ppg. The other redshirted last year as a Junior and was a community college transfer.

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