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  • Originally posted by BlueBlood View Post
    TNU and KWC are both really hampered by the lack of D2s in KY. The schools in KY that match the G-MAC profile are all NAIA.

    I really do think that KWC and TNU had visions of a new KY/TN D2 conference (mostly made up of NAIA Mid-South Conference schools and a couple existing D2s in TN) or at least a very large KY/TN southern division of the G-MAC.

    If the G-MAC-like MSC schools had turned, it would have made a really nice conference.

    The D2 denials killed that plan. Now, with Covid and budget cuts, I doubt any NAIAs are quick to pick that blueprint back up. I hate saying it, but it’s probably more likely that TNU and KWC join the MSC than it is to flip MSC schools to D2.

    There isn’t much the G-MAC can do now to help KWC. Bellarmine is now D1. UIndy would help a bit, but not dramatically.
    Right I think the "goal" was a 2 division G-MAC - North (OH/WV) and South (KY/TN). Lee, Union, and Christian Brothers are small private D2 colleges in TN that are in Gulf South but don't offer Football. Those schools combined with KWC, TNU, Georgetown, Cumberland, and maybe Bellarmine or Kentucky State or another NAIA school would make a nice 8 team division for most sports.

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    • Yes, and add Campbellsville, Cumberlands (KY), Lindsey Wilson, etc. (all of which have football)

      If they grouped enough of those schools, it’s a really nice conference. If it’s a smaller group, it’s a nice large division.
      A hybrid might have been two separate conferences, but joined for football.

      I do think that was the plan.

      I don’t think adding WV schools was part of the initial plan. I think that was just a survival move when both the G-MAC And WVIAC got raided.
      Last edited by BlueBlood; 05-24-2020, 09:20 AM.

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      • IN and KY are NAIA strongholds. Almost all the schools In those states that fit the G-MAC profile are NAIA. TN is a mixed bag, but unfortunately for TNU, the other D2 schools in TN are at the far outer extremities, nowhere close to TNU.

        This is creating issues for KWC, TNU and UIndy. Like I said earlier, the occasional KWC/TNU road trip for the OH schools is not bad. Nashville is a unique experience that kids seem to enjoy. However, we need to remember, TNU and KWC are driving that same distance for every single conference road game.

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        • Alderson Broaddus announced today that it intends to return to on-campus classes in the fall. Interesting enough....they are going back on August 10 as first day of classes. Finals will end on November 20th.

          https://www.wboy.com/news/education/...n-in-the-fall/

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          • On the very first page of this thread (circa 2016), I asked If you could add two schools as members of the G-MAC, who would get your invite?

            I then answered my own question with the below answer. Obviously, BU has moved on. I think I’d still answer similarly today. Any combination of UIndy, Taylor, IWU or Marian still looks good to me.

            Originally posted by BlueBlood View Post
            Re: G-MAC All-Sports and Conference Business Thread

            I think a homerun would be UIndy and Bellarmine. Understanding that those two have a very comfortable home and likely have no reason to leave, I'd say Taylor and Marian. Taylor gets us into IN, is a very highly-ranked academic institution, and gives Hillsdale and Findlay some company up in that corner. Marian would be a good travel partner, is right in Indy, and is ranked in the top tier by US News (as are all incoming GLIAC schools).

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            • I have supported Marian and Taylor to the G-MAC for a long time. Both are relatively easy travel for KWC and TNU.

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              • Going all Catholic:
                NDC
                Thomas More

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                • Thomas More just moved to NAIA from D3 a year ago.

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                  • I know. I answered this question years ago with NDC and WJU....again keeping it Catholic. Well, WJU is now just WU and they are both less Catholic and less stable than they used to be.

                    Thomas More seems to be the more viable college. They had some minor NCAA infraction issues that likely impacted their decision to go the NAIA route. I’d still keep them in the Rolodex though.

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                    • I don’t like the AB move from a sentimental perspective. I have nothing but respect for the Battlers. However, from every other angle, this is best for both AB and the G-MAC.

                      - AB regains traditional rivalries
                      - AB eliminates long road trips that cost time and money
                      - AB can use saved money to bolster its scholarships to regain competitiveness.

                      - G-MAC tightens it’s footprint and eliminates one of the “living on an island” trips
                      - G-MAC now has a clearer picture regarding which direction to expand in.
                      - G-MAC’s tighter footprint makes it more appealing to expansion targets.

                      Definitely a win-win.

                      NDC posted a “glad you are joining us in the MEC” on Twitter. I’m not saying that that means this isn’t a one for one switch, but it does make me wonder.

                      This definitely should make the G-MAC more appealing to UIndy. The KWC and TNU games that are still a stretch for everyone else would not be for them.

                      I still remain of the opinion that TNU is not a burden for the G-MAC. These are all private schools that need to market themselves. Having teams occasionally make a KWC/TNU trip and having your school / team / bus / logo in a growing and tourist city like Nashville is a good thing. Conversely, playing in the G-MAC has to be a tremendous burden to TNU.

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                      • AB immediate move conspiracy theory:

                        MEC and GMAC both know that AB for NDC straight up is not a fair trade. GMAC is letting AB leave early as a concession. NDC moves later, coming into the conference with Ashland.

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                        • Originally posted by Stea1th View Post
                          AB immediate move conspiracy theory:

                          MEC and GMAC both know that AB for NDC straight up is not a fair trade. GMAC is letting AB leave early as a concession. NDC moves later, coming into the conference with Ashland.
                          Makes sense, of course I haven't seen much sense around lately

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                          • Originally posted by Stea1th View Post
                            AB immediate move conspiracy theory:

                            MEC and GMAC both know that AB for NDC straight up is not a fair trade. GMAC is letting AB leave early as a concession. NDC moves later, coming into the conference with Ashland.
                            Or, I'm wondering if they had an arrangement with the G-MAC from the get-go regarding a possible future move to the MEC. Davis and Elkins also moved without delay. The G-MAC had absolutely zero negotiating power circa 2012. I know what the bylaws say, but there could have been an addendum for the WV schools who wanted to return to the WVIAC/MEC someday if allowed.


                            Either way, this is very good logistically for both AB and the G-MAC.


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                            • Originally posted by UFOILERFAN View Post

                              Makes sense, of course I haven't seen much sense around lately
                              I agree with you, 2020 has been a VERY crazy year. And were not even at the half way mark yet.
                              Last edited by crixus; 06-09-2020, 07:14 PM.
                              Bring back Humboldt State football.

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                              • Originally posted by BlueBlood View Post

                                Or, I'm wondering if they had an arrangement with the G-MAC from the get-go regarding a possible future move to the MEC. Davis and Elkins also moved without delay. The G-MAC had absolutely zero negotiating power circa 2012. I know what the bylaws say, but there could have been an addendum for the WV schools who wanted to return to the WVIAC/MEC someday if allowed.


                                Either way, this is very good logistically for both AB and the G-MAC.

                                I loved the WVIAC and went to their Basketball Tournament finale in Charleston back in the Spring of 2013. They never should have broke that conference up in the first place. I'm glad to see that the WV schools are coming back together, for the most part. https://twitter.com/i/status/1269479001170628608
                                Last edited by crixus; 06-09-2020, 07:38 PM.
                                Bring back Humboldt State football.

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