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  • Trevecca has also announced plans to reopen campus for Fall semester.

    (I checked them because they don’t have a poster here)

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    • Originally posted by BlueBlood View Post
      Cedarville announced yesterday that instruction will resume on-campus in August.

      Anybody else make announcements yet?
      This sounds nice, but until DeWine says colleges can go back this means nothing.

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      • Yes, 100% understood that the governor can thwart any plans made. BTW DeWine is a Cedarville resident and former adjunct professor at CU.

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        • Originally posted by BlueBlood View Post
          Cedarville announced yesterday that instruction will resume on-campus in August.

          Anybody else make announcements yet?
          Nothing from AB. West Virginia seems to be opening a lot more quicker than most states so I would say that AB will try to open in the fall. The only thing with opening pretty fast is that West Virginia does have the oldest median population in the USA. I would assume if the data goes bad in the state that the governor will quickly shut it back down.

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          • Findlay planning on in-person classes, residential living this fall. Well, that's the plan right now.

            https://newsroom.findlay.edu/univers...Of9c5alHpNBm6E

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            • With Ashland moving to the G-MAC and Urbana (MEC) closing, NDC (MEC) and Central St (SIAC) are the only OH D2s not in the conference.

              Also, is UIndy now on the clock?

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              • Indy has GOT to be really thinking about it, I mean the GLVC continues to move west, they fit the profile of the G-MAC, Ashland now joining, and with Bellarmine (and probably USI) jumping to D1 the G-MAC has to be looking better and better to them.

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                • Originally posted by kdubnation View Post
                  Indy has GOT to be really thinking about it, I mean the GLVC continues to move west, they fit the profile of the G-MAC, Ashland now joining, and with Bellarmine (and probably USI) jumping to D1 the G-MAC has to be looking better and better to them.
                  If I were UIndy, I’d either consider a D1 move (for all the same “move forward or risk irrelevancy” reasons that Bellarmine weighed), or if that’s just not economically feasible - G-MAC.

                  if D1, put football in no-scholarship Pioneer conference with Butler, Valpo, Dayton, Drake, etc.

                  if D2, rekindle rivalries with Hillsdale, Ashland, etc.

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                  • Originally posted by BlueBlood View Post
                    If I were UIndy, I’d either consider a D1 move (for all the same “move forward or risk irrelevancy” reasons that Bellarmine weighed), or if that’s just not economically feasible - G-MAC.
                    Congrats -- that's a really nice pickup for the G-MAC.

                    Having lived in Indy for many years, I still don't see UIndy going D-I anytime soon; seems to be a fine school, but they are an afterthought in that very crowded sports market.

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                    • I know many from the conference north of us view Ashland as cowardly moving to an easier conference. Some of it is in jest, some not so much. I really think this move is just about geography. If you look at the final GLIAC all-sports rankings from 2016-2017 (the last year before the OH schools split), the OH schools actually occupied 4 of the top 6 spots. That’s a pretty good showing for a group of schools that are often characterized as trying to duck competition. Ultimately, I really don’t’ think that the level of play between the new G-MAC and the new GLIAC will be as dramatically different as some GLIACers think. I’m pretty sure Ashland teams will be challenged.

                      This is a great day for the G-MAC. I hope history will prove it to be a great day for Ashland too.


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                      • Very happy that Ashland is joining, I didn't think it would happen. GMAC future got a lot brighter and I'm hoping NDC and/or UIndy make the move.

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                        • The recent additions have pretty much turned the G-MAC into the conference that Cedarville, Walsh, Malone, Ohio Dominican, NDC and Ursuline envisioned when they applied to the NCAA in the later 2000s. There was always a belief that Tiffin and Findlay would join if there were numbers (and at the time, Urbana was a certainty). I don’t know if anyone was confident Ashland would join, but they were certainly wanted. I have no idea if Hillsdale was involved in discussions that far back, or if those discussions came later. There was fairly open discussion back then that they wanted an OH D2 conference. There were even newspaper articles.

                          The mystery to me is what happened in 2011 - when KWC and Trevecca joined in. Did KWC and TNU really want in on that OH vision? Did the OH conference idea look so bleak at that point that the G-MAC vision changed? Was there really an intent at that point to have a permanent conference that stretched from Cleveland to Tennessee? When the conference was focusing on KY and TN NAIAs, was that a permanent situation, or was there a possibility that KWC and TNU wanted to build a new conference in KY/TN? Was the G-MAC actually a holding area for both an OH D2 conference and a KY/TN conference? If it was, the D2 committee obviously torpedoed that.

                          Anyway, somehow the conference got to it’s original intent. It just took lots of twists and turns getting there. I’d love to buy Mr. Daeger a beer sometime and find out what happened in between.

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                          • I believe they tried to get Georgetown and another KY. school before the GLIAC teams joined, didn't they?

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                            • Originally posted by UFOILERFAN View Post
                              I believe they tried to get Georgetown and another KY. school before the GLIAC teams joined, didn't they?
                              Georgetown (KY) and Cumberland (TN)

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                              • TNU and KWC are both really hampered by the lack of D2s in KY. The schools in KY that match the G-MAC profile are all NAIA.

                                I really do think that KWC and TNU had visions of a new KY/TN D2 conference (mostly made up of NAIA Mid-South Conference schools and a couple existing D2s in TN) or at least a very large KY/TN southern division of the G-MAC.

                                If the G-MAC-like MSC schools had turned, it would have made a really nice conference.

                                The D2 denials killed that plan. Now, with Covid and budget cuts, I doubt any NAIAs are quick to pick that blueprint back up. I hate saying it, but it’s probably more likely that TNU and KWC join the MSC than it is to flip MSC schools to D2.

                                There isn’t much the G-MAC can do now to help KWC. Bellarmine is now D1. UIndy would help a bit, but not dramatically.

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