New bellarmine thread

[DUPanther]

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D1 AD's are more interested in winning the press conference by hiring the third assistant from a power 5 school than they are in hiring a proven winner. That's why there's about 100 D1 schools that couldn't win the GLVC.

[BGrad1971]

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Totally agree with Moves and Stalker. I just hope Scotty is happy as can be with where he is. I'm also curious to see where the new Univ. Pres. is looking to take BU in the future. Vision 2020 is nearly upon us. Are we close to being where McGowan wanted us to be?

[bkingbroker]

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ADs have become glorified salesmen as fundraising is their main goal. Most of them are clowns.

D1 AD's are more interested in winning the press conference by hiring the third assistant from a power 5 school than they are in hiring a proven winner. That's why there's about 100 D1 schools that couldn't win the GLVC.

[DUPanther]

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ADs have become glorified salesmen as fundraising is their main goal. Most of them are clowns.

Agree, but you think they'd figure out that it's hard to raise money when you can't beat McKendree.

[BellarmineGrad]

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I'm also curious to see where the new Univ. Pres. is looking to take BU in the future. Vision 2020 is nearly upon us. Are we close to being where McGowan wanted us to be?

Hope I'm wrong, but my initial impression is that she's not going to be all that into promoting BU athletics and trying to build on previous successes. Strikes me as a "P.C." type.

[DJ Silky Panties]

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Hope I'm wrong, but my initial impression is that she's not going to be all that into promoting BU athletics and trying to build on previous successes. Strikes me as a "P.C." type.

with the continual downgrade of d2, especially in the midwest Bellarmine probably best served going d1. They could easily be like belmont. successful in the shadow of a SEC school and other bigger D1s in town

[BGrad1971]

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There are 351 colleges/universities playing D1 men's basketball. Each year or two a few schools jump to D1. At what point will D1 fracture itself and break into an upper and lower division similar to football? The schools at the bottom have miniscule budgets compared to the behemoths at the top. I know the whole March Madness thing is a dream for the schools at the bottom, but it would be possible to keep that dream alive by having a qualification tournament the week before March Madness for the smaller schools to fill out a given number of slots for the big tournament. On the other hand, is there any advantage to breaking up D1 into pieces? Football was a different animal because of the whole bowl system so having a championship playoff made more sense for them since the bowl system did nothing for the smaller schools. Also the cost to even compete with the larger schools was too prohibitive in football.

[DUPanther]

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There are 351 colleges/universities playing D1 men's basketball. Each year or two a few schools jump to D1. At what point will D1 fracture itself and break into an upper and lower division similar to football? The schools at the bottom have miniscule budgets compared to the behemoths at the top. I know the whole March Madness thing is a dream for the schools at the bottom, but it would be possible to keep that dream alive by having a qualification tournament the week before March Madness for the smaller schools to fill out a given number of slots for the big tournament. On the other hand, is there any advantage to breaking up D1 into pieces? Football was a different animal because of the whole bowl system so having a championship playoff made more sense for them since the bowl system did nothing for the smaller schools. Also the cost to even compete with the larger schools was too prohibitive in football.

They ought to do it like soccer leagues in some countries. Finish in the top few of a lower league and you get to move up. Finish at the bottom of the upper league and you get relegated down.

It gets old hearing kids talk about how they're "going D1" to some place like New Jersey Tech or Tennessee-Martin. Those D1 schools would get drilled by a good D2 team.

[KnightStalker]

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They ought to do it like soccer leagues in some countries. Finish in the top few of a lower league and you get to move up. Finish at the bottom of the upper league and you get relegated down.

It gets old hearing kids talk about how they're "going D1" to some place like New Jersey Tech or Tennessee-Martin. Those D1 schools would get drilled by a good D2 team.

In some cases it need not be a good D2 team (McKendree.)

Moves had the same kind of idea to install the European soccer league model. The only problem I see with that is recruiting would get wacked. What kid who thinks he is capable of playing D1 basketball would want to go to a school that is perennially on the bubble? I think it would be a lot less parity in D1. The professional soccer league can make it because they pay their players. The soccer player has more incentive to win and does not have the same pressure of 4 years and your out.

[BGrad1971]

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In some cases it need not be a good D2 team (McKendree.)

Moves had the same kind of idea to install the European soccer league model. The only problem I see with that is recruiting would get wacked. What kid who thinks he is capable of playing D1 basketball would want to go to a school that is perennially on the bubble? I think it would be a lot less parity in D1. The professional soccer league can make it because they pay their players. The soccer player has more incentive to win and does not have the same pressure of 4 years and your out.

Being a real soccer fan I am familiar with the relegation/promotion idea, but in College Basketball it would present additional problems above just the recruiting problem. How would conferences handle the situation where some of their members get demoted or for a D2 conference where a member gets promoted to the upper level? What kind of topsy-turvy situation would exist if some mid-major conference had teams in both levels? Also the NCAA has different rules for D1 and D2 with regard to practice times, etc. Obviously a change of that magnitude would involve a lot of changes to NCAA rules etc. to make it work. I like the idea of relegation/promotion but it would take major changes in thinking by the NCAA brass and AD's etc. Heck, why not think creatively and bounce some new ideas around.

[KnightStalker]

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Being a real soccer fan I am familiar with the relegation/promotion idea, but in College Basketball it would present additional problems above just the recruiting problem. How would conferences handle the situation where some of their members get demoted or for a D2 conference where a member gets promoted to the upper level? What kind of topsy-turvy situation would exist if some mid-major conference had teams in both levels? Also the NCAA has different rules for D1 and D2 with regard to practice times, etc. Obviously a change of that magnitude would involve a lot of changes to NCAA rules etc. to make it work. I like the idea of relegation/promotion but it would take major changes in thinking by the NCAA brass and AD's etc. Heck, why not think creatively and bounce some new ideas around.

I think the idea would be to take the existing 351 schools in D1 and break them up in different levels ala soccer leagues. That way they would still have the same rules apply, they would just compete at a different levels based on their success. I think D2 schools stay where they are if they don't want to fund the athletics at the same level as D1. Still think it would affect recruiting for the smaller d1 schools but they could always drop to d2 anyway.

[kwcpantherfan]

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Freedom - of - speech - stop - trying - to - censor - people

Just kidding; thought this would be more fun than reading the debbie downers on the other threads.

[KnightStalker]

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Freedom - of - speech - stop - trying - to - censor - people

Just kidding; thought this would be more fun than reading the debbie downers on the other threads.

Good one but hey, yours worked ok. Probably because you put a space before and after the -.

[BellarmineGrad]

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Juston Betz, a 6'2" guard out of Providence High in Clarksville, IN, has apparently committed to BU:
http://www.courier-journal.com/story...ops/100297948/

Article says he's getting a full ride, but redshirting as a freshman and playing the next four years while obtaining an MBA.

Does sound like a good student:
http://www.courier-journal.com/story...ourt/97044048/

[#1KnightFan]

What I've heard is that Scotty has one scholarship left for the coming year. He will use it for the right D1 transfer and is focusing on a post player.