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    Hearing word that St. Cloud State may announce, as early as this afternoon, they are dropping football.

    Minnesota-Crookston may be not far behind.


  • #2
    Wasn't St. Cloud in danger of dropping football a few years ago before some big donation saved it? Or was that some other St. Cloud sport?

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    • #3
      I have heard this as well.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by KleShreen View Post
        Wasn't St. Cloud in danger of dropping football a few years ago before some big donation saved it? Or was that some other St. Cloud sport?
        You are right, it was football.

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        • #5
          What caused UMC to cancel its plan to drop to D3 back in 2007?

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          • #6
            One way to stop it would be to revoke their league membership, then they'd be scrambling or have to go D3. Too many non-football schools out there.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by tsull View Post
              One way to stop it would be to revoke their league membership, then they'd be scrambling or have to go D3. Too many non-football schools out there.
              From what I understand, NSIC recently changed its bylaws and no longer require member schools to sponsor football.

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              • #8
                SCSU informed their players this morning that football is ceasing operations immediately.

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                • #9
                  https://www.inforum.com/sports/footb...-drop-football

                  There is a meeting at 3:00 this afternoon with SCSU administration where it is reported they will announce they are dropping football.

                  Minnesota-Crookston is also expected to make the same announcement today.

                  The NSIC changed its bylaws just last week that require member schools to sponsor football.

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                  • #10
                    Well down to 14...getting better. Terrible news for the players.
                    Also, too bad we won't get a chance to continue our streak against SCSU, I believe they still have a hefty lead on us in the head to head historically

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by wscsuperfan View Post
                      https://www.inforum.com/sports/footb...-drop-football

                      There is a meeting at 3:00 this afternoon with SCSU administration where it is reported they will announce they are dropping football.

                      Minnesota-Crookston is also expected to make the same announcement today.

                      The NSIC changed its bylaws just last week that require member schools to sponsor football.
                      How convenient...never should have changed it

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                      • #12
                        https://www.sctimes.com/story/news/l...ow/4384166002/
                        https://www.sctimes.com/story/news/2...witter_sctimes

                        SCSU gave three reasons for dropping football (and women's golf)

                        1. To align SCSU athletics with Title IX requirements
                        An August ruling in federal court required the university to provide its female students with equitable opportunity to participate in athletics programs under the 1972 Title IX law that bars discrimination based on sex in federally funded education settings.

                        2. To ensure financial sustainability for the university and its athletics programs
                        Fall enrollment at SCSU was lower than projected and the university is facing a deficit of around $5.1 million for the fiscal year 2020. Changes in the athletics lineup will reduce athletic department budget shortfalls totaling $1.6 million over the last five years and will save around $1.25 million annually.

                        3. To ensure compliance with NCAA bylaws
                        Division II schools must sponsor a men's or mixed-gender and a women's sport in each of the three school seasons (fall, winter and spring). Men's soccer will fulfill this requirement for fall.

                        What about adding more women's programs?
                        The university said it considered adding women's programs, but none of the potential scenarios would have brought its athletics program into compliance with Title IX and address St. Cloud State's financial situation.

                        What does Title IX have to do with it?
                        In 2016 the university removed six athletic programs, including men's and women's tennis and Nordic skiing. That led to a lawsuit, with athletes claiming the university violated Title IX, a 1972 U.S. law that prohibits discrimination on the basis of sex in educational programs funded with federal dollars.

                        The judge found St. Cloud State didn't comply with Title IX from at least 2014 and ordered the university to fix the imbalance. In part, the school needs to better align the proportion of female and male athletes with the proportion men and women who are full-time, degree-seeking undergraduate students at the university.

                        Eliminating football and golf was the only way St. Cloud State found to address its financial challenges while complying with the court's order, Wacker said.

                        What about the student athletes?
                        Around 115 student athletes are affected by the program eliminations. The university will help student athletes who wish to transfer and honor scholarships for up to four years.

                        The football team had 98 players on its roster this year

                        There are eight women and eight men who play golf at St. Cloud State. It's a fall and spring sport. Golf will continue through the spring.

                        The teams have 20 scholarships; some of those scholarships are split or shared among more than one student.

                        What about students who have signed letters of intent?
                        National Letters of Intent are void if a sport program is discontinued.

                        What about the coaches and staff?
                        A total of nine staff — seven coaches and two graduate assistant coaches — will be affected.

                        What will happen with Husky Stadium?
                        Husky Stadium will continue to be used by the university's women's soccer, softball, baseball and the new men's soccer teams. High school football games will still be held at the stadium.

                        How will this affect homecoming?
                        St. Cloud State men's hockey and volleyball are scheduled for home contests during the 2020 Homecoming weekend.

                        Why men's soccer?
                        Division II schools must sponsor a men's or mixed-gender and a women's sport in each of the three school seasons and men's soccer will fulfill this requirement for fall.

                        St. Cloud State said the sport is one of the fastest-growing and requires a lower level of staffing, scholarship and operational resources compared to football.

                        When will soccer start?
                        The university said it will begin an immediate search for a head coach and intends to begin play in fall 2020.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by wscsuperfan View Post

                          From what I understand, NSIC recently changed its bylaws and no longer require member schools to sponsor football.
                          Should've kept the bylaws. Basically it comes down to administrators not wanting to work it. It's so easy to just have basketball and minor sports, less fund raising, games are easier to put on by the university ... though alums rarely make it over in the snow to games like they do football and things like homecoming.

                          Basically it comes down to people not wanting to work it, have seen it out west with WWU and Humboldt State. It's hard and takes work and people at those schools didn't want to do the hard work, nothing more, nothing less.

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                          • #14
                            Officially official

                            https://scsuhuskies.com/news/2019/12...ns-soccer.aspx

                            https://goldeneaglesports.com/news/2...l-program.aspx
                            Last edited by wscsuperfan; 12-10-2019, 03:42 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by zimmy21 View Post
                              Well down to 14...getting better. Terrible news for the players.
                              Also, too bad we won't get a chance to continue our streak against SCSU, I believe they still have a hefty lead on us in the head to head historically

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