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  • #16
    There is a proposal to add a week to the beginning of the football season; if that is approved then leave the championship game date as is. If the season is extended at the end then it would become necessary to move the championship game to January; but that brings some issues. A January game would be more of an afterthought with the increased attention to the CFP, the end of regular season and start of playoffs for the NFL, and D1 basketball usually starts conference games around that time.

    On regional alignment, Carolinas naturally fits in SR2. Move the CIAA to SR1, move the GMAC to SR3, and move the GAC to SR4. I didn't look at numbers to see how balanced that would be on the number of teams but it gets us back to 4 conferences per region.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Tech Boys View Post
      There is a proposal to add a week to the beginning of the football season; if that is approved then leave the championship game date as is. If the season is extended at the end then it would become necessary to move the championship game to January; but that brings some issues. A January game would be more of an afterthought with the increased attention to the CFP, the end of regular season and start of playoffs for the NFL, and D1 basketball usually starts conference games around that time.

      On regional alignment, Carolinas naturally fits in SR2. Move the CIAA to SR1, move the GMAC to SR3, and move the GAC to SR4. I didn't look at numbers to see how balanced that would be on the number of teams but it gets us back to 4 conferences per region.
      I like that idea, but I might also add moving the MIAA to SR 4 and sending the NSIC to SR 3, too. NSIC schools are not drivable for any RMAC schools except Chadron and the SD schools.

      This opens up many of the Oklahoma schools as ooc playoff opponents for the perennial RMAC powers and all of the Kansas schools. Even the further outposts of Western and Mesa add Fort Hays as an option when before it was only really WTAMU, ENMU and maybe NW Oklahoma that were drivable. It even opens up possibilities for the SD schools, which are on the rise, that didn’t exist before. Even Maryville to Golden is flirting with the limit. It just opens up some great playoff matchups.

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      • #18
        Based on what is known at the time of this post to actually be the 2025 conference alignment.

        Option 1
        CIAA 12 CC 6 GLIAC 8 GAC 12
        MEC 10 GSC 5 GLVC 9 LSC 10
        NE10 9 SAC 11 GMAC 10 NSIC 13
        PSAC 16 SIAC 13 MIAA 11 RMAC 10
        SR1 47 SR2 35 SR3 38 SR4 45

        Option 2
        CIAA 12 CC 6 GLIAC 8 GAC 12
        MEC 10 GSC 5 GLVC 9 LSC 10
        NE10 9 SAC 11 GMAC 10 MIAA 11
        PSAC 16 SIAC 13 NSIC 13 RMAC 10
        SR1 47 SR2 35 SR3 40 SR4 43
        Last edited by Tech Boys; 09-30-2023, 12:27 AM.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by FortLewis4Lyfe View Post
          Looks like they’re also looking at realigning the super regions. As a big SR1 and SR4 fan, I have no idea why they would do this. Really affects the integrity of our great sport
          Because the regions as currently structured appear to be imbalanced (based off the current NCAA D2 Football Pre-Championship Manual):

          SR1 (46)
          GMAC (10)
          MEC (11 - reflects closing of Alderson Broaddus)
          NE-10 (9 - includes Post even though they're not officially part of NE-10 football until next season)
          PSAC (16)

          SR2 (46)
          CIAA (12)
          GSC (9)
          SAC (12)
          SIAC (13)

          SR3 (40)
          GAC (12)
          GLIAC (8 - includes Roosevelt, who will not be playing a GLIAC schedule until next season)
          GLVC (8 - for some reason, the manual still lists Lindenwood as part of the GLVC when they're now FCS)
          MIAA (12 - includes Lincoln-MO, who is technically playing an independent schedule this season)

          SR4 (33)
          LSC (10 - includes Sul Ross State, who will be not playing an LSC schedule until next season)
          NSIC (13)
          RMAC (10)

          The upcoming conference changes will massively impact the current alignments:

          SR1
          MEC: UNC Pembroke to Conference Carolinas

          SR2
          Conference Carolinas: NEW Football Conference - Barton, Chowan, Erskine, North Greenville, Pembroke and Shorter
          GSC: Chowan, North Greenville, Shorter to ConfCar; West Georgia to D1/FCS
          SAC: Barton, Erskine to ConfCar; ADD Anderson (2024)

          SR3
          GLVC: ADD Lincoln-MO from MIAA
          MIAA: Lincoln-MO to GLVC

          SR4
          No Known Changes

          Once all the changes take place by 2025, the current Super Region structure, presuming no changes, would be as follows:

          SR1 (45)
          GMAC: 10
          MEC: 10
          NE-10: 9
          PSAC: 16

          SR2 (47)
          CIAA: 12
          ConfCar (presumptive): 6
          GSC: 5
          SAC: 11
          SIAC: 13

          SR3 (40)
          GAC: 12
          GLIAC: 8
          GLVC: 9
          MIAA: 11

          SR4 (33)
          LSC: 10
          NSIC: 13
          RMAC: 10

          I'll probably post my suggestions later today once I'm fully awake, but the changes are inevitable in the current Super Region scheme.

          EDIT: After reading @Tech Boys' post, I'm still thinking they may have to balance out SR1 a little bit, but that's going to be difficult since the PSAC's 16 teams kinda stick out like a sore thumb.

          The other variable is the future of the GSC, presuming none of the remaining five football schools jump to FCS.
          Last edited by ctrabs74; 09-30-2023, 09:41 AM.
          Cal U (Pa.) Class of 2014

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Tech Boys View Post
            There is a proposal to add a week to the beginning of the football season; if that is approved then leave the championship game date as is. If the season is extended at the end then it would become necessary to move the championship game to January; but that brings some issues. A January game would be more of an afterthought with the increased attention to the CFP, the end of regular season and start of playoffs for the NFL, and D1 basketball usually starts conference games around that time.

            On regional alignment, Carolinas naturally fits in SR2. Move the CIAA to SR1, move the GMAC to SR3, and move the GAC to SR4. I didn't look at numbers to see how balanced that would be on the number of teams but it gets us back to 4 conferences per region.
            The FCS championship game is held the weekend before the CFP title game and, considering the current D2 football championship site (McKinney) is literally the next city over from the current FCS championship site (Frisco), it could end up being convenient to host both the FCS and D2 title games at Frisco's Toyota Stadium (presuming Frisco even submits a bid), so the timing might work out better for D2 in the long run.
            Cal U (Pa.) Class of 2014

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Purple Mav Man View Post

              In a non-direct way, Notre Dame has a level of earned access in football. Or maybe that was only during the BCS days. That may have been when, but I guess the answer is, kind of?
              Notre Dame essentially still has "earned access" under the current CFP scheme, in so far as they have a vote along with the 10 (soon to be nine) FBS conferences.
              Cal U (Pa.) Class of 2014

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Tech Boys View Post
                Based on what is known at the time of this post to actually be the 2025 conference alignment.

                Option 1
                CIAA 12 CC 6 GLIAC 8 GAC 12
                MEC 10 GSC 5 GLVC 9 LSC 10
                NE10 9 SAC 11 GMAC 10 NSIC 13
                PSAC 16 SIAC 13 MIAA 11 RMAC 10
                SR1 47 SR2 35 SR3 38 SR4 45

                Option 2
                CIAA 12 CC 6 GLIAC 8 GAC 12
                MEC 10 GSC 5 GLVC 9 LSC 10
                NE10 9 SAC 11 GMAC 10 MIAA 11
                PSAC 16 SIAC 13 NSIC 13 RMAC 10
                SR1 47 SR2 35 SR3 40 SR4 43
                The plan I've preferred is the second one but with the CIAA and CC swapped to balance numbers.

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                • #23
                  After seeing the numbers, I prefer Option 2 also. I can see swapping the CC and CIAA for numbers balance but geography is a big drawback with CIAA members in very close proximity to SR1 members from other conferences.

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                  • #24
                    Would be a shame for SR1 to lose the GMAC... they were becoming a great rival to the PSAC within the region.

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                    • #25
                      Option 2 is only logical, especially if you swap CC and CIAA. Most balanced as far as pure numbers go in a long time

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by ctrabs74 View Post

                        EDIT: After reading @Tech Boys' post, I'm still thinking they may have to balance out SR1 a little bit, but that's going to be difficult since the PSAC's 16 teams kinda stick out like a sore thumb.
                        We can solve this PSAC problem by just condensing the two triad sets into one team for each. /s

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by zimmy21 View Post
                          Option 2 is only logical, especially if you swap CC and CIAA. Most balanced as far as pure numbers go in a long time
                          The issue might be whether or not CC and the GSC end up in a scheduling alliance, so we'll have to see if that has an effect on the new regions.
                          Cal U (Pa.) Class of 2014

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by ctrabs74 View Post

                            The issue might be whether or not CC and the GSC end up in a scheduling alliance, so we'll have to see if that has an effect on the new regions.
                            We'll see if the GSC football exists soon enough. A merging is definitely plausible for them

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by zimmy21 View Post

                              We'll see if the GSC football exists soon enough. A merging is definitely plausible for them
                              I hadn't even thought about that, but if West Florida and Valdosta end up in one conference while the Mississippi schools and West Alabama end up in, say, the GAC, that might force a re-draw of the new regions ... again.
                              Cal U (Pa.) Class of 2014

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by ctrabs74 View Post

                                I hadn't even thought about that, but if West Florida and Valdosta end up in one conference while the Mississippi schools and West Alabama end up in, say, the GAC, that might force a re-draw of the new regions ... again.
                                Or if they leave for D1

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