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Originally posted by Nick - Shep '05 View PostYou mean Washingtons, don't you? :wink:
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Originally posted by boatcapt View PostIf I had a dollar for every post on this board were someone heard from a reliable source that one or the other or both joining the GMAC is a "done deal," my savings account would have a considerable amount of extra benjamins in it.
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Originally posted by Stea1th View PostI agree. I don't think that Malone dropping football changes their allegiances. Ursuline has to know that they are lucky to be in this conference. They are in this conference only because they did the work to help start it. If they want to maintain their seat at the table, they can't be obstructionists. Cedarville has been playing these schools in sports for 80 years or more, doesn't want to play football, and will likely vote however they have to to maintain the balance. OVU should have the same exact outlook as Ursuline. They need to vote with the big boys (or at least abstain) even if its not truly what they desire. They are lucky that they got into the conference early. If this doesn't work out for them, they are screwed. They have to be telling themselves before every meeting "just don't screw this up".
Oh...TNU. At this point I don't know if it matters how they vote. The OH and football schools have numbers. Plus, they have to question why they are even in this conference every day of their life.
Does the GMAC require a 2/3 vote to add new members or is it 50% +1? The WVIAC required a 2/3 majority and that is what gave the non-football playing schools so much power.Last edited by boatcapt; 06-11-2019, 02:28 PM.
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Originally posted by BlueBlood View PostI'm not sure about OVU or TNU (neither one shares much history with the OH schools). However, I'm almost positive that Cedarville, Malone and Ursuline will vote with the football schools on all matters that impact conference viability/sustainability. The G-MAC is what they have long desired and I don't see them being short-sighted about it. Without the football schools, the non-football schools would find themselves trying to put together a conference with Bluefield State, Salem, Oakland City, etc. (and they know that)
Oh...TNU. At this point I don't know if it matters how they vote. The OH and football schools have numbers. Plus, they have to question why they are even in this conference every day of their life.
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Originally posted by JDonAB92 View PostIf true, this attitude from schools is ridiculous and shows any lack of urgency of the current situation.
I would venture to say that if this continues that the football schools will break away from the non-football playing members. Ohio Valley doesn't feel the lack of football schools in this conference like Alderson Broaddus does. Trevecca Nazarene does not feel the same as say Ohio Dominican does. Ursuline probably could care less about the football situation as say Findlay does.
My own opinion is that Ashland has been given enough time to make a decision. I am a little tired of this "we aren't ready now, but will look at it again a few years from now". One way or the other, it is time to move on. I am not interested in giving one school carte blanche in this situation. If they enter as a member, that attitude is likely to continue and I, for one, am not in favor of it.
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Originally posted by BlueBlood View PostI'm not sure what you are calling BS on. Are you denying that the WV MEC schools started a new conference by plucking only the schools they wanted from the WVIAC? and left the ones it didn't? and invited the G-MAC schools that it wanted to round-out the new MEC?
I'm not sure that there is much to deny there.
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Originally posted by BlueBlood View PostI'm not sure about OVU or TNU (neither one shares much history with the OH schools). However, I'm almost positive that Cedarville, Malone and Ursuline will vote with the football schools on all matters that impact conference viability/sustainability. The G-MAC is what they have long desired and I don't see them being short-sighted about it. Without the football schools, the non-football schools would find themselves trying to put together a conference with Bluefield State, Salem, Oakland City, etc. (and they know that)
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Originally posted by boatcapt View PostI'm going to fly the BS flag there!!!
I'm not sure that there is much to deny there.
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Originally posted by JDonAB92 View PostIf true, this attitude from schools is ridiculous and shows any lack of urgency of the current situation.
I would venture to say that if this continues that the football schools will break away from the non-football playing members. Ohio Valley doesn't feel the lack of football schools in this conference like Alderson Broaddus does. Trevecca Nazarene does not feel the same as say Ohio Dominican does. Ursuline probably could care less about the football situation as say Findlay does.
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Originally posted by BlueBlood View PostYou do realize that the deck was totally stacked in the MEC's favor, right? The MEC started with the schools they wanted from the WVIAC and the G-MAC. After the MEC hand-picked its schools, the G-MAC consisted of schools that the MEC, the GLVC, the GLIAC and the GSC did not want (with KWC being the only possible exception to that description).
This is kind of like having a dodgeball game where one team gets the first 12 picks and then bragging about beating the other team.
Given its very humble beginnings, I think the G-MAC has pretty remarkably climbed a tremendous hill. Heck, it had to climb out of a grave once or twice. I'm pretty sure it's not done climbing yet.
Overall success the first 6 years - I'll give you that. Success last year, this year, next year and beyond? Keep checking in.
Probably a better way for the schools that were the charter members of the GMAC and the MEC to have approached this would have been to join together with a conference "plan" to ultimately break into two divisions (west and east...Ohio people could have called the west the Ohio Division if it suited them!) with the west including current and future teams in Ohio (and west) and the east including all teams in WV (and east). Might have taken a few years to get there and perhaps an east team (or perhaps 2) would have had to be aligned with the west to balance things out. But as a conference, this amalgam of the MEC and GMAC would have been a much stronger and stable conference.
Would have been a heck of a basketball conference too!!!
Won't happen, but I wonder if the two comish's couldn't get together and come up with some kind of conference "partnership" that would effectively merge the two entities? Probably not...ego's are too big I guess!Last edited by boatcapt; 06-10-2019, 01:57 PM.
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Agreed that starting position and trajectory are too totally different things.
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Originally posted by boatcapt View PostFunny...still haven't gotten anyone to compare first six year on-field success between the MEC and the GMAC. I have laid out the success the MEC has had during that period...anyone want to lay out the success the GMAC has had?
This is kind of like having a dodgeball game where one team gets the first 12 picks and then bragging about beating the other team.
Given its very humble beginnings, I think the G-MAC has pretty remarkably climbed a tremendous hill. Heck, it had to climb out of a grave once or twice. I'm pretty sure it's not done climbing yet.
Overall success the first 6 years - I'll give you that. Success last year, this year, next year and beyond? Keep checking in.Last edited by BlueBlood; 06-10-2019, 08:08 AM.
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Originally posted by BlueBlood View PostThanks for the pep talk Captain.
Funny...still haven't gotten anyone to compare first six year on-field success between the MEC and the GMAC. I have laid out the success the MEC has had during that period...anyone want to lay out the success the GMAC has had?
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