2020 PSAC Out of Conference Opponents

[Ship69]

That's a sports post, lol? Unfortunately, coronavirus is happening and sports is not.

When this happened it was during one of those times of the year when there is a confluence of sports seasons. For me, the NCAA Wrestling Championships were coming up, IUP had MBB and WBB perched atop the region going into the regional tourney, spring football camps were on the horizon, and major league and minor league baseball was right around the corner.

What I have found out about myself that all of these avocations we have are secondary to our survival and health and well-being.

Stay positive but recognize what it is we are dealing with.

I recognize very well what we are dealing with. It's hard not to, although some certainly seem to be trying.

[WarriorVoice]

Get used to being on your couches...

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/wh...&ICID=ref_fark

[iupgroundhog]

Getting back to sports, I suspect some next year will be played without crowds or within limits. I'm not a young person and certainly won't be attending events until I see much more evidence that a) new cases are almost down to zero over an extended period and testing is being done, or b) a vaccine that is at least fairly effective has been developed.

That's a sports post, lol? Unfortunately, coronavirus is happening and sports is not.

When this happened it was during one of those times of the year when there is a confluence of sports seasons. For me, the NCAA Wrestling Championships were coming up, IUP had MBB and WBB perched atop the region going into the regional tourney, spring football camps were on the horizon, and major league and minor league baseball was right around the corner.

What I have found out about myself that all of these avocations we have are secondary to our survival and health and well-being.

Stay positive but recognize what it is we are dealing with.

[Ship69]

Getting back to sports, I suspect some next year will be played without crowds or within limits. I'm not a young person and certainly won't be attending events until I see much more evidence that a) new cases are almost down to zero over an extended period and testing is being done, or b) a vaccine that is at least fairly effective has been developed.

[Fightingscot82]

Meanwhile, Wolf lifted some restrictions in the Northwestern and North Central parts of the state effective (from KDKA-TV/Pittsburgh):

Bradford, Cameron, Centre, Clarion, Clearfield, Clinton, Crawford, Elk, Erie, Forest, Jefferson, Lawrence, Lycoming, McKean, Mercer, Montour, Northumberland, Potter, Snyder, Sullivan, Tioga, Union, Venango and Warren.

That's pretty much north of I-80 but roughly west of 476/81 (give or take a couple counties) - including New Castle, but not Slippery Rock or Butler County.

That's because Butler County and Slippery Rock are below I-80.

[ctrabs74]

Meanwhile, Wolf lifted some restrictions in the Northwestern and North Central parts of the state effective (from KDKA-TV/Pittsburgh):

Bradford, Cameron, Centre, Clarion, Clearfield, Clinton, Crawford, Elk, Erie, Forest, Jefferson, Lawrence, Lycoming, McKean, Mercer, Montour, Northumberland, Potter, Snyder, Sullivan, Tioga, Union, Venango and Warren.

That's pretty much north of I-80 but roughly west of 476/81 (give or take a couple counties) - including New Castle, but not Slippery Rock or Butler County.

[Horror Child]

So, you agree with Lt. Governor Dan Patrick that there "are more important things than living" and that people 70 and over should be willing to sacrifice their lives? If so, we see things quite a bit different.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=there+...NGA3dT&plvar=0

So you disagree with Patrick Henry?

Just to put the snippet that you selected into context for everyone else:
Let me know where Dan Patrick or anyone said that people 70 and over should be willing to sacrifice their lives. Although we've had many thousands of people over the past couple of hundred years sacrifice their lives for our freedom. You're welcome.

The fundamental issue is governmental control over individual liberty. On that, I do suspect that we see things quite differently.

[Horror Child]

Virtually all criticism of Wolf's handling of the situation is purely political. The truth is Wolf has followed, almost to the letter, what the other governors have done.

Most of the criticism has been from rural Republicans. Unfortunately, the virus is now starting to creep into their areas and it ain't going back to the cities.

Golf courses - a prime target for the naysayers. Social distancing while playing? Yes, maybe. In the clubhouse? Traveling to and from? Not essential to do. Sorry.

Public transportation is a real dilemma. However, transit systems around the country have remained open (I'm aware that 3 SEPTA employees have died). But the argument is that they needed to remain open for people to get to their essential jobs. In many neighborhoods, people need public transportation just to stay alive, get necessities to sustain life, food, medications, etc. So, that's a real problem. The bottom line is Wolf did the same as other governors from both sides of the aisle.

Perhaps. However your question wasn't how Wolf's policies compared to other governors, just what he had done to warrant criticism.

Regarding golf courses - a prime target for class envy. The point is, the governor just shut them down without giving the owners/operators a chance to consider how they could alter their business (close the clubhouse, mandate that people travel to and from independently since you thought that was an issue) or patrons the decision to go there or not. Because the governor "just knows better" than individual people. Tell all the people that are not working that they're not essential.

[CUlater]

My opinion is once PA starts to re-open ... the virus will have a major rally. Yes, it slowed down, but that's because we've been living like hermits for 40 days. Once the gates are open ...

gotcha, makes sense, the hope is that doesn't happen lol. I think a little rebound should be expected but I think things will be much different with the impact as we get into June/July. Not to mention the progress that will be made on therapeutics 4-6-8 weeks down the road. The stay at home orders were two fold, slow the spread/buy time to apply what we can learn from the data/research to move forward on how to approach living with this thing until a vaccine is available. The alternative is just not an option...

[Fightingscot82]

Virtually all criticism of Wolf's handling of the situation is purely political. The truth is Wolf has followed, almost to the letter, what the other governors have done.

Most of the criticism has been from rural Republicans. Unfortunately, the virus is now starting to creep into their areas and it ain't going back to the cities.

Golf courses - a prime target for the naysayers. Social distancing while playing? Yes, maybe. In the clubhouse? Traveling to and from? Not essential to do. Sorry.

Public transportation is a real dilemma. However, transit systems around the country have remained open (I'm aware that 3 SEPTA employees have died). But the argument is that they needed to remain open for people to get to their essential jobs. In many neighborhoods, people need public transportation just to stay alive, get necessities to sustain life, food, medications, etc. So, that's a real problem. The bottom line is Wolf did the same as other governors from both sides of the aisle.

I think some criticism is fair. There are some questions about which specific businesses received waivers. The types of businesses allowed weren't consistent with other states.

Overall, I support the stay at home order. The details and execution could have been better.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

What makes you feel so strongly that things will not be able to open up on schedule in the fall? Football in spring would create too many challenges to be a real possibility. We are closer to seeing football in the fall as planned than we are to seeing a spring schedule. There will be football in the fall in some capacity outside of a strong rebound of the virus due to states reopening, the only question is if it will be a modified/abbreviated schedule.

My opinion is once PA starts to re-open ... the virus will have a major rally. Yes, it slowed down, but that's because we've been living like hermits for 40 days. Once the gates are open ...

[Sec10-A-14]

I saw his interview live the day he made it. I understood that it was the way he personally felt about his life and not that of all seniors. He was willing to (or at least chance it) sacrifice his life if it meant saving the economy and the future of the younger generations ability to maintain America as the leader of the free world.

[iupgroundhog]

The governor in Pennsylvania ordered "non-essential" businesses to close. That excluded beer distributors (okay, I know some of you would argue that they're essential) and Wolf Home Products (no, the name is not a coincidence), makers of kitchen cabinets. In the age of social distancing, golf courses, often designated as open spaces, were ordered closed whereas densely populated public transportation continued to run.

Virtually all criticism of Wolf's handling of the situation is purely political. The truth is Wolf has followed, almost to the letter, what the other governors have done.

Most of the criticism has been from rural Republicans. Unfortunately, the virus is now starting to creep into their areas and it ain't going back to the cities.

Golf courses - a prime target for the naysayers. Social distancing while playing? Yes, maybe. In the clubhouse? Traveling to and from? Not essential to do. Sorry.

Public transportation is a real dilemma. However, transit systems around the country have remained open (I'm aware that 3 SEPTA employees have died). But the argument is that they needed to remain open for people to get to their essential jobs. In many neighborhoods, people need public transportation just to stay alive, get necessities to sustain life, food, medications, etc. So, that's a real problem. The bottom line is Wolf did the same as other governors from both sides of the aisle.

[iupgroundhog]

I sense sarcasm. There was a guy a few years ago who said something like "give me liberty or give me death". You can look it up.
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So, you agree with Lt. Governor Dan Patrick that there "are more important things than living" and that people 70 and over should be willing to sacrifice their lives? If so, we see things quite a bit different.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=there+...NGA3dT&plvar=0

[CUlater]

If they'd go with a spring schedule you could have Week 1 in early March. Training camp in late Jan or early February outside would be a treat. As of now, I just cannot see any possible way they play on schedule in the Fall. It would be an athletic department nightmare with essentially every sport playing at the same time. They'd have to bulk up their staffs to handle it.

What makes you feel so strongly that things will not be able to open up on schedule in the fall? Football in spring would create too many challenges to be a real possibility. We are closer to seeing football in the fall as planned than we are to seeing a spring schedule. There will be football in the fall in some capacity outside of a strong rebound of the virus due to states reopening, the only question is if it will be a modified/abbreviated schedule.