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    https://www.goerie.com/sports/202006...orts-to-return

    IN PART

    The release lists 13 bullet points that must be adhered to, including:

    ‒ Coaches and league officials must review and consider the CDC guidance on consideration for youth sports to modify practices and games to mitigate the risk of spreading the virus. This includes focusing on individual skill building versus competition and limiting contact in close contact sports.
    ‒ The community, league, or team must designate a primary point of contact for all questions related to COVID-19, and all parents, athletes, officials, and coaches must be provided the person’s contact information.
    ‒ The community, league, or team must develop a plan of action in the event an athlete, coach, or official falls ill, make the plan publicly available, and explain it to the entire sport community.
    ‒ The community, league, or team must educate all athletes, staff and families about the symptoms of COVID-19 and when to stay home. Athletes also should be educated on proper hand washing and sanitizing.
    ‒ Coaching staff and other adult personnel should wear face coverings (masks or face shields) at all times, unless doing so jeopardizes their health.
    ‒ Coaches and athletes must maintain appropriate social distancing at all times possible, including in the field of play, locker rooms, sidelines, dugouts, benches, and workout areas. During down time, athletes and coaches should not congregate.
    ‒ Coaches and athletic staff must screen and monitor athletes for symptoms prior to and during games and practices. If individuals participating in sporting activities show symptoms, have a temperature of 100.4 degrees or higher, or are sick, they must be sent home.
    ‒ All athletes, coaches, and officials must bring their own water and drinks to team activities. Team water coolers for sharing through disposable cups are not allowed. Fixed water fountains should not be used.
    ‒ Activities that increase the risk of exposure to saliva must not be allowed including chewing gum, spitting, licking fingers, and eating sunflower seeds.
    ‒ Avoid shaking hands, fist bumps, or high fives before, during or after games and practices. Limit unnecessary physical contact with teammates, other athletes, coaches, officials, and spectators.
    ‒ Whenever possible, equipment and other personal items should be separated and not shared. If equipment must be shared, all equipment should be properly disinfected between users.
    ‒ If multiple games are to be held at the same facility, adequate time shall be scheduled between contests to allow for facilities to be cleaned and disinfected, and to minimize interaction between athletes. Sports complexes with multiple fields may operate simultaneous games or practices on fields within a complex only if social distancing can be maintained. Each individual game or practice at a complex must adhere to the gathering occupancy limits (25 in yellow, 250 in green), and the facility as a whole may not exceed 50% of total occupancy otherwise permitted by law.
    ‒ Concession stands or other food must adhere to the Guidance for Businesses in the Restaurant Industry.

    The guidance also includes several bullet points that schools are encouraged to follow:

    ‒ To operate games or practice, organizations and teams that are otherwise permitted to conduct in-person activities pursuant to this guidance are encouraged to do the following:
    ‒ In counties in the Yellow Phase of Reopening, indoor training or sports may only be conducted by organizations subject to supervision or regulation of the Pennsylvania Interscholastic Athletic Association or National Collegiate Athletic Associations, and only in accordance with guidance provided by those governing bodies. Start by limiting games, scrimmages, and matches to teams in your region first. Expand beyond regional play if cases continue to stay low.
    ‒ Adult athletes are encouraged to wear face coverings when they are not engaged in a sporting activity, unless doing so jeopardizes their health.
    ‒ Coaches should create a back-up staffing plan which should include cross-training staff and coaches and training all coaches and officials on safety protocols.
    ‒ Limit cash transactions to the extent possible; find alternative ways to charge admission and pay for concessions.
    ‒ Create protocols to limit entrance and exit traffic, designating specific entry to and exits from facilities. Establish protocols to ensure staggered pick up and drop off for practice and events and ensure that athletes are not congregating while awaiting pick up and to ensure congregation or crowding does not occur on drop off. Pickups and drop offs should remain outside. Parents should not enter the facility.

    Contact Tom Reisenweber at [email protected]. Follow him on Twitter @ETNreisenweber.












  • #2
    Originally posted by Sec10-A-14 View Post
    https://www.goerie.com/sports/202006...orts-to-return

    IN PART

    The release lists 13 bullet points that must be adhered to, including:

    ‒ Coaches and league officials must review and consider the CDC guidance on consideration for youth sports to modify practices and games to mitigate the risk of spreading the virus. This includes focusing on individual skill building versus competition and limiting contact in close contact sports.
    ‒ The community, league, or team must designate a primary point of contact for all questions related to COVID-19, and all parents, athletes, officials, and coaches must be provided the person’s contact information.
    ‒ The community, league, or team must develop a plan of action in the event an athlete, coach, or official falls ill, make the plan publicly available, and explain it to the entire sport community.
    ‒ The community, league, or team must educate all athletes, staff and families about the symptoms of COVID-19 and when to stay home. Athletes also should be educated on proper hand washing and sanitizing.
    ‒ Coaching staff and other adult personnel should wear face coverings (masks or face shields) at all times, unless doing so jeopardizes their health.
    ‒ Coaches and athletes must maintain appropriate social distancing at all times possible, including in the field of play, locker rooms, sidelines, dugouts, benches, and workout areas. During down time, athletes and coaches should not congregate.
    ‒ Coaches and athletic staff must screen and monitor athletes for symptoms prior to and during games and practices. If individuals participating in sporting activities show symptoms, have a temperature of 100.4 degrees or higher, or are sick, they must be sent home.
    ‒ All athletes, coaches, and officials must bring their own water and drinks to team activities. Team water coolers for sharing through disposable cups are not allowed. Fixed water fountains should not be used.
    ‒ Activities that increase the risk of exposure to saliva must not be allowed including chewing gum, spitting, licking fingers, and eating sunflower seeds.
    ‒ Avoid shaking hands, fist bumps, or high fives before, during or after games and practices. Limit unnecessary physical contact with teammates, other athletes, coaches, officials, and spectators.
    ‒ Whenever possible, equipment and other personal items should be separated and not shared. If equipment must be shared, all equipment should be properly disinfected between users.
    ‒ If multiple games are to be held at the same facility, adequate time shall be scheduled between contests to allow for facilities to be cleaned and disinfected, and to minimize interaction between athletes. Sports complexes with multiple fields may operate simultaneous games or practices on fields within a complex only if social distancing can be maintained. Each individual game or practice at a complex must adhere to the gathering occupancy limits (25 in yellow, 250 in green), and the facility as a whole may not exceed 50% of total occupancy otherwise permitted by law.
    ‒ Concession stands or other food must adhere to the Guidance for Businesses in the Restaurant Industry.

    The guidance also includes several bullet points that schools are encouraged to follow:

    ‒ To operate games or practice, organizations and teams that are otherwise permitted to conduct in-person activities pursuant to this guidance are encouraged to do the following:
    ‒ In counties in the Yellow Phase of Reopening, indoor training or sports may only be conducted by organizations subject to supervision or regulation of the Pennsylvania Interscholastic Athletic Association or National Collegiate Athletic Associations, and only in accordance with guidance provided by those governing bodies. Start by limiting games, scrimmages, and matches to teams in your region first. Expand beyond regional play if cases continue to stay low.
    ‒ Adult athletes are encouraged to wear face coverings when they are not engaged in a sporting activity, unless doing so jeopardizes their health.
    ‒ Coaches should create a back-up staffing plan which should include cross-training staff and coaches and training all coaches and officials on safety protocols.
    ‒ Limit cash transactions to the extent possible; find alternative ways to charge admission and pay for concessions.
    ‒ Create protocols to limit entrance and exit traffic, designating specific entry to and exits from facilities. Establish protocols to ensure staggered pick up and drop off for practice and events and ensure that athletes are not congregating while awaiting pick up and to ensure congregation or crowding does not occur on drop off. Pickups and drop offs should remain outside. Parents should not enter the facility.

    Contact Tom Reisenweber at [email protected]. Follow him on Twitter @ETNreisenweber.










    Man, some law firms booked a $#@& load of billable hours working up this CYA declaration.

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    • #3
      Sounds pretty far-fetched to me that there will be high school football this fall to be honest. For anyone who had any experience with the sport it is pretty much impossible to avoid the perspiration, blood, and breathing (droplets) of other players. I'm sure the NFL and major college football will give it a go being that there is big $$$ involved there. D-II and lower tiers may be 50/50 at this point. But my prediction is that there very well may be no sports at the scholastic levels all across our state and beyond.

      I can see where teams give it a go with certain precautions in place----but what happens the second when a player or coach or support staff member of a team has that positive test for Covid? Does the entire team go into quarantine and get taken out of circulation for the duration of the season?

      I hope things work out but I have my doubts about it all.

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      • #4
        I have no doubt that the season will start, but how long will it last?!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by IUP CRIMSON HAWKS View Post
          Sounds pretty far-fetched to me that there will be high school football this fall to be honest. For anyone who had any experience with the sport it is pretty much impossible to avoid the perspiration, blood, and breathing (droplets) of other players. I'm sure the NFL and major college football will give it a go being that there is big $$$ involved there. D-II and lower tiers may be 50/50 at this point. But my prediction is that there very well may be no sports at the scholastic levels all across our state and beyond.

          I can see where teams give it a go with certain precautions in place----but what happens the second when a player or coach or support staff member of a team has that positive test for Covid? Does the entire team go into quarantine and get taken out of circulation for the duration of the season?

          I hope things work out but I have my doubts about it all.

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          The same could be asked about chemistry class.

          How do you control this age group when the sun goes down? That's the major area of concern. You don't social distance at a keg bash.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

            The same could be asked about chemistry class.

            How do you control this age group when the sun goes down? That's the major area of concern. You don't social distance at a keg bash.
            My employer has set out policies regarding work and personal travel. Certain stipulations regarding what the procedures are for when you come back. If we are taking a week of vacation we have to tell our supervisor what our vacation plans are. There's scenarios where if you take vacation time to go somewhere, you may need to take additional time off to "quarantine" when you come back. That doesn't apply to work travel of course, but if you're voluntarily going into a "hot spot," the expectation is that you aren't coming straight back to the office. Rules are clearly laid out.

            I can fly out of Columbus to Las Vegas tomorrow night after work, get there by 10:00 their time, spend the weekend with my friend from college who lives there, and take the red eye home Sunday night and be at work Monday morning. Won't have used a day of vacation and I didn't tell anybody a thing. Who's stopping that?

            As you and I continue to say.. Life will go on or it won't. I bet it'll go on.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by IUP24 View Post

              My employer has set out policies regarding work and personal travel. Certain stipulations regarding what the procedures are for when you come back. If we are taking a week of vacation we have to tell our supervisor what our vacation plans are. There's scenarios where if you take vacation time to go somewhere, you may need to take additional time off to "quarantine" when you come back. That doesn't apply to work travel of course, but if you're voluntarily going into a "hot spot," the expectation is that you aren't coming straight back to the office. Rules are clearly laid out.

              I can fly out of Columbus to Las Vegas tomorrow night after work, get there by 10:00 their time, spend the weekend with my friend from college who lives there, and take the red eye home Sunday night and be at work Monday morning. Won't have used a day of vacation and I didn't tell anybody a thing. Who's stopping that?

              As you and I continue to say.. Life will go on or it won't. I bet it'll go on.
              I'm not sure how any of that connects to policymaking or the realities that face decision-makers on every level.

              It appears that you're saying that people will circumvent the rules in every situation. That is true but what are the implications (for the PIAA, in this case)?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post

                I'm not sure how any of that connects to policymaking or the realities that face decision-makers on every level.

                It appears that you're saying that people will circumvent the rules in every situation. That is true but what are the implications (for the PIAA, in this case)?
                We could see a form for parents to sign off on "similar" to that ultimate outcome form you need to sign before an operation under anaesthesia. Having been in that position several times it's always freaky to acknowledge that yes I understand I may not survive this and it won't be the doctor's fault. Your son can play football for HOMETOWN HIGH SCHOOL but if he comes down with COVID-19 don't call us.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by CALUPA69 View Post

                  We could see a form for parents to sign off on "similar" to that ultimate outcome form you need to sign before an operation under anaesthesia. Having been in that position several times it's always freaky to acknowledge that yes I understand I may not survive this and it won't be the doctor's fault. Your son can play football for HOMETOWN HIGH SCHOOL but if he comes down with COVID-19 don't call us.
                  You mean the form they put in front of you as they strap down and immobilize every part of your body and an assistant is putting the anesthesia mask on your face and they are saying to you 'Here, sign this.' Ok, I'm exaggerating a little bit but not by too much.

                  As far as parents signing off on letting their kids play I wonder how well that would hold up in court (or as a class action). When do the lawyers enter the picture?

                  The problem wouldn't be that the kid caught the virus and got sick. It would be that he or she gave it to Aunt Sally and she died. There's contact tracing, etc. and you better believe the law firms are getting their ducks in order.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post

                    You mean the form they put in front of you as they strap down and immobilize every part of your body and an assistant is putting the anesthesia mask on your face and they are saying to you 'Here, sign this.' Ok, I'm exaggerating a little bit but not by too much.

                    As far as parents signing off on letting their kids play I wonder how well that would hold up in court (or as a class action). When do the lawyers enter the picture?

                    The problem wouldn't be that the kid caught the virus and got sick. It would be that he or she gave it to Aunt Sally and she died. There's contact tracing, etc. and you better believe the law firms are getting their ducks in order.
                    Two professions who will clean up as a result of C19 are LAWYERS and UNDERTAKERS. They will never speak it, but the skies the limit if you're up and running.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post

                      I'm not sure how any of that connects to policymaking or the realities that face decision-makers on every level.

                      It appears that you're saying that people will circumvent the rules in every situation. That is true but what are the implications (for the PIAA, in this case)?
                      You're connecting my post with the original policy making post, which wasn't my intent, even though I made a post about policy making. Follow that (lol)?....

                      My post was directed at IUPBigIndians. IUP CH said what happens if one player gets COVID-19, do you shut the whole team down? IUPBigIndians said that the same logic applies to a chemistry class. You can put in all the measures you want, but college keg parties are not going to be social distanced. So if Johnny was at the Delta house on Saturday night, caught the virus, and then went to class until he became symptomatic, should every person in the class be quarantined? I would say no.

                      My employer can put into effect all the travel policies that she wants. The state of Ohio is open. I can go to a club or bar tonight if I wanted to, not leave the general area and come down with the virus. I wouldn't have traveled anywhere.

                      So to your question, make all the regulations and policies you want. It won't matter. You can't control what somebody does or how they act when they aren't in your control. A friend of mine works for a club as a DJ. Their club is taking all sorts of incredible precautions. What do you think the entire staff is doing when they aren't working? They were all out drinking together at another bar last night (club is open Thurs-Sun). So cooks, wait staff, bartenders, etc.. All out doing things that people say will increase your chances of catching the virus. Their employer jumping through every hoop imaginable to remain open made no difference.

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                      • #12
                        Yep. Control all you want from 8am to 5pm.

                        But ...as many of us know ... the goal on a campus after dark isn't to watch X's and O's. It's to party and, well, you know the rest.

                        So .... how is that controlled? Bus rides are a minor item. Sorority hooches, etc., are a far bigger risk. And, ... boys will be boys.

                        Tell a football team to stay away from 18-21 year-old co-eds ... better luck curing cancer.

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                        • #13
                          I realize that the NFL is not the NCAA, but you'd have to imagine that guidelines for both will be somewhat similar. Here's Ravens Coach John Harbaugh: "What they're asking us to do is humanly impossible"...

                          https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...nes-impossible
                          Last edited by WarriorVoice; 06-12-2020, 06:02 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
                            Yep. Control all you want from 8am to 5pm.

                            But ...as many of us know ... the goal on a campus after dark isn't to watch X's and O's. It's to party and, well, you know the rest.

                            So .... how is that controlled? Bus rides are a minor item. Sorority hooches, etc., are a far bigger risk. And, ... boys will be boys.

                            Tell a football team to stay away from 18-21 year-old co-eds ... better luck curing cancer.
                            Those players have a better chance of being seriously injured in a bus crash going to the game than catching/spreading a virus.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by IUP24 View Post

                              Those players have a better chance of being seriously injured in a bus crash going to the game than catching/spreading a virus.
                              CIte a source...just once, give us a source and not just an opinion...I suppose you didn't hear about the 5 Alabama players who caught it...

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