IUP Football 2021

[IUP24]

They did try to get a tomato can in here this year. Didn't work. Two to tango.

Were they willing to go on the road to said tomato can next year? Not the ideal scenario obviously, but... They have to be flexible too.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Yes, I recognize that. I'm not pretending to know IUP's financial situation within the program, but schedule a home and home then. Regarding scheduling a lesser program for that, IUP did it with Southern CT State a few years ago.

They did try to get a tomato can in here this year. Didn't work. Two to tango.

[IUP24]

It can be tough scheduling that 11 game if you only want to sign a one year deal to play them. I feel like most schools would want the 1 and 1 deal. You play at home once they play at home once. Especially with budgets being changed due to Covid, it may not have been affordable for a team to travel to Indiana for one game just to get stomped out.

Yes, I recognize that. I'm not pretending to know IUP's financial situation within the program, but schedule a home and home then. Regarding scheduling a lesser program for that, IUP did it with Southern CT State a few years ago.

[Big Hawk15]

This is the 7th year in a row (counting the lost 2020 Season would have made this the 8th) that IUP is playing SRU/Cal back-to-back.

And, guess what? Shocker. Same in 2022 and 2023.


So, that is 10 straight seasons IUP was 'randomly' scheduled to play SRU/Cal back-to-back.

What a crock of trash.


Ten in a row. Amazing.

Absolutely absurd... everybody in the psac wants to see the hawks lose.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

This is the 7th year in a row (counting the lost 2020 Season would have made this the 8th) that IUP is playing SRU/Cal back-to-back.

And, guess what? Shocker. Same in 2022 and 2023.


So, that is 10 straight seasons IUP was 'randomly' scheduled to play SRU/Cal back-to-back.

What a crock of trash.


Ten in a row. Amazing.

[Ship69]

Do you care that Clarion plays some order of IUP, Cal, and SRU in back to back to back weeks? That's typically how their schedule falls. And that's been like that for years too.

I think Ship would rather not have had Shepherd, West Chester, and Kutztown in a row this season, but that's the way it fell. I believe it's that way next season as well. The 2019 season was brutal because we had a below-average team and played every top team in the West as well as the ones in our division. I don't think the Raiders have much of a shot at Kutztown this season, but it obviously doesn't help going up there after tough games the previous two weeks. The pecking order of the league has been established well enough over the past several seasons that I think the league office could do a better job of spacing out some of these games.

[IUPFOOTBALLALUM]

For sure. I am never in favor of not having an opportunity to put a win, or, I suppose, a loss on you total at the end of the year. Play a game. I don't care what your conference schedule looks like really. Play somebody. It certainly takes having a dance partner, but there are a lot of colleges out there at many levels. Surely somebody was willing to suit up and play a football game that weekend.

I've never been of the belief that you should be rewarded for playing less games. If Team A goes 9-2, I don't view them lesser than Team B that went 9-1 and didn't play an 11th game and has one fewer loss. The fact that Team A went out and played somebody holds more weight for me than whatever wonky SOS metric or calculation you can come up with. If it comes down to a 9-2 Shep or an 8-2 IUP, I hope IUP sits at home. Not a popular opinion, but it's the one I've always held. Play a football game. I wouldn't have cared if that extra win for Shepherd's came against the school for the blind. Fact is, they went out and played. IUP didn't. Play Point Park for all I care - and they don't have a football team. Should never be rewarded for ducking out of a potential loss on the basis of "we have a tough enough conference crossover schedule and therefore don't need to play this game." Again, it takes two. Maybe they tried. If they didn't that's BS in my opinion.

It can be tough scheduling that 11 game if you only want to sign a one year deal to play them. I feel like most schools would want the 1 and 1 deal. You play at home once they play at home once. Especially with budgets being changed due to Covid, it may not have been affordable for a team to travel to Indiana for one game just to get stomped out.

[IUPFOOTBALLALUM]

ND at 9-2 vs IUP at 8-2... on paper that Ashland win by ND could pay big dividends come selection Sunday. 2 loss team are going to get in, not all of them, but at least the ones with the stronger SOS. ND set itself up for error with that win against Ashland.

Certainly not saying that IUP made a mistake in not getting the 11th game, but once again it could be a deciding factor if they don't win out.

[Big Hawk15]

Do you care that Clarion plays some order of IUP, Cal, and SRU in back to back to back weeks? That's typically how their schedule falls. And that's been like that for years too.

I mentioned that clarion is never even a contender at this point of the season... but iup usually is.

[IUPNation]

Welcome to The Wonderful World of The Home Office In Lock Haven.

[IUP24]

Do you care that Clarion plays some order of IUP, Cal, and SRU in back to back to back weeks? That's typically how their schedule falls. And that's been like that for years too.

[Ship69]

Tennis is a dying sport in the US. Half the time anymore when you see people using a public tennis court they're playing pickleball. Its last refuge is country clubs. A lot of college teams are predominantly international.

I think racquetball is probably the same. Its not a "joe public" sport.

The one that really surprises me is field hockey. That's not a sport kids grow up playing. Who is the target audience and when do girls start learning how to play?

You're probably right that it is not a "Joe Public" sport, and that is a shame. Relatively easy to learn, great physical exercise, and relatively inexpensive to play, especially if your town has public courts. Actually, programs for our young women aren't looking totally bad in the U.S. Men's programs are another matter. A lot of colleges, Ship among them, have women's teams and not men's. Same with volleyball and other sports. Field hockey is largely a Northeast sport in the U.S., which is why the PSAC is the dominant small-school conference in the sport.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

It was sooooooooo pitiful to watch the Shippensburg game. They no question laid down.

I left at halftime. Only time in 30 years.

[ShoNuff]

They were dead before that last game in the rankings and knew it was over. Hence that debacle against Ship. Only time I ever saw an IUP team quit before the game started.

It was sooooooooo pitiful to watch the Shippensburg game. They no question laid down.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

IUP was left at home for the playoffs in 2018 because IUP finished 8-3 ( https://iupathletics.com/sports/football/schedule/2018 ), not 9-2. In their last 2 games they barely won at Edinboro (13-6) and got crushed at IUP by Shippensburg (45-21). It also didn't help that IUP could not win the Coal Bowl against Cal U (36-24) thanks to that crucial-game-clinching pick-6 on the goal line, or their own Homecoming game against Slippery Rock (30-27). So I do not understand what Coach Tort is complaining about. IUP's only quality win that year was....ummmmmm....none! Unless you are counting Ashland (6-4) and Edinboro (6-5).

They were dead before that last game in the rankings and knew it was over. Hence that debacle against Ship. Only time I ever saw an IUP team quit before the game started.