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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
In higher ed, stackable credentials are what I mentioned. I think it spells an end for the MBA in the long run. If distance ed is the teaching format, they can market that throughout eastern PA. If classroom learning is the primary format, it will have to be extra sensitive to the local market. There's an interesting book on this stuff, "There Is Life After College" about the future of work and the disconnect between traditional degree programs and the changing needs of the workforce. I don't know exactly what that would look like. 5-10 years ago I would have said something with oil & gas but they've largely cut & run (maybe drilled & run) from the region.
As for fracking, I believe Mansfield put together a fracking certificate program, maybe even a major. It was quickly overrun by PSU which the employers bought into.
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Originally posted by iupgroundhog View PostI think the stackable credentials/more adult education/workforce development is a good idea. I would go big-time, make it a program across all 14 schools i.e. statewide, and develop a formal relationship with the Department of Labor.
It's a competitive market (just like the online deal is for the west schools). If they can cut costs while developing new sources of revenue that will help.
If you're talking programs like FS82 mentioned (data analytics, project management) you also have to consider that Bloom-Lock Haven-Mansfield is located amidst a rural economy. How much local demand is there for these offerings?
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Originally posted by Bart View Post
We already have the party reputation, so we don't need certificates on karaoke. Harvard has some interesting certificates: https://www.extension.harvard.edu/ac...e-certificates
It seems they take anyone with a degree, so why would someone go to Mansfield for a certificate. Harvard can sell these pieces of paper because the dupes want to say they went to Harvard. Harvard on the resume may get you somewhere.
It's a competitive market (just like the online deal is for the west schools). If they can cut costs while developing new sources of revenue that will help.
If you're talking programs like FS82 mentioned (data analytics, project management) you also have to consider that Bloom-Lock Haven-Mansfield is located amidst a rural economy. How much local demand is there for these offerings?
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Originally posted by Bart View Post
I wonder how many certificates a student could get in 4 or 5 years to stay eligible for athletic competition? Do you need a degree to get a certificate?
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Originally posted by iupgroundhog View PostOnce for Main Line School Night I took a course in Harmonica at Lower Merion HS. It didn't really enhance my career prospects but it was a lot of fun. A friend of mine took the Drum Circle thing (Intro to ...) and that did come in handy at parties.
It seems they take anyone with a degree, so why would someone go to Mansfield for a certificate. Harvard can sell these pieces of paper because the dupes want to say they went to Harvard. Harvard on the resume may get you somewhere.
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Originally posted by Bart View Post"California, Clarion and Edinboro universities would function as a single unit specializing in online education, and Bloomsburg, Lock Haven and Mansfield would focus on stackable and nondegree credentials, PASSHE officials have said. "
https://www.educationdive.com/news/p...m-cuts/588220/
What would a nondegree credential include? EMT, CPR, fracking equipment, CDL, lifeguard certification? You don't need a university for certificates.
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Curious to see things in 5 years. I have doubts Seton Hill stays up in D2 much longer. They are a perfect fit for the Presidents' Conference (D3).
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
Probably, even a football team with Edinboro's results the last few years brings in several hundred thousand more than it costs to operate. If it doesn't make sense to cut athletics, it only makes a stronger case to walk away from the integration.
But, hey, West Penn U can say it has three varsity football teams -- all in the same division. That's kind of weird. The academics will love it.
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
A certificate that has enough weight behind it to allow someone to leverage it for a career move or more importantly, a career pivot. They're more professional in nature: data analytics, instructional design, project management, etc. Not an additional degree or grad school. Harvard has been doing these for years.
I wonder how many certificates a student could get in 4 or 5 years to stay eligible for athletic competition? Do you need a degree to get a certificate?
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
Would this 'single unit' in the West have three football programs?
Sounds like some of these schools are headed toward glorified community college status.
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Originally posted by Bart View Post"California, Clarion and Edinboro universities would function as a single unit specializing in online education, and Bloomsburg, Lock Haven and Mansfield would focus on stackable and nondegree credentials, PASSHE officials have said. "
https://www.educationdive.com/news/p...m-cuts/588220/
What would a nondegree credential include? EMT, CPR, fracking equipment, CDL, lifeguard certification? You don't need a university for certificates.
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Originally posted by Bart View Post"California, Clarion and Edinboro universities would function as a single unit specializing in online education, and Bloomsburg, Lock Haven and Mansfield would focus on stackable and nondegree credentials, PASSHE officials have said. "
https://www.educationdive.com/news/p...m-cuts/588220/
What would a nondegree credential include? EMT, CPR, fracking equipment, CDL, lifeguard certification? You don't need a university for certificates.
Sounds like some of these schools are headed toward glorified community college status.
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"California, Clarion and Edinboro universities would function as a single unit specializing in online education, and Bloomsburg, Lock Haven and Mansfield would focus on stackable and nondegree credentials, PASSHE officials have said. "
https://www.educationdive.com/news/p...m-cuts/588220/
What would a nondegree credential include? EMT, CPR, fracking equipment, CDL, lifeguard certification? You don't need a university for certificates.
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