PASSHE - our alma maters

[Fightingscot82]

I think you too easily dismiss Republicans. I think it's a case of keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Under Wolf, PA House speaker Mike Turzai and rural county tea partier Brad Roae have both joined the PASSHE Board of Governors. And in spite of their previous criticisms, they voted in favor of asking the state for the extra $100MM to jump start system innovation. Reminds me of every school board election when R's run on the "eliminate waste and cut taxes!" platform only to get elected and realize there's not much waste to cut.

[IUPNation]

Very likely that approach will change and, in some cases, is already changing.

[Ship69]

From my personal experience, grad school enrollment costs at Ball State University in Indiana for online programs are comparable, if not slightly lower, for non-Indiana residents than grad school costs at PASSHE schools are for in-state Pennsylvania residents. Regardless of party, that speaks volumes about the obstacles PASSHE is facing, especially with the long-standing "one-size fits all" tuition approaches that other states (ie. Ohio, West Virginia, Indiana) have eschewed.

Very likely that approach will change and, in some cases, is already changing.

[Fightingscot82]

From my personal experience, grad school enrollment costs at Ball State University in Indiana for online programs are comparable, if not slightly lower, for non-Indiana residents than grad school costs at PASSHE schools are for in-state Pennsylvania residents. Regardless of party, that speaks volumes about the obstacles PASSHE is facing, especially with the long-standing "one-size fits all" tuition approaches that other states (ie. Ohio, West Virginia, Indiana) have eschewed.

Same in my experience. Arizona State is charging the same rates as PASSHE.

[ctrabs74]

From my personal experience, grad school enrollment costs at Ball State University in Indiana for online programs are comparable, if not slightly lower, for non-Indiana residents than grad school costs at PASSHE schools are for in-state Pennsylvania residents. Regardless of party, that speaks volumes about the obstacles PASSHE is facing, especially with the long-standing "one-size fits all" tuition approaches that other states (ie. Ohio, West Virginia, Indiana) have eschewed.

[IUPNation]

My side? I never said I was republican lol.

You sure sounded like one.

[IUPNation]

I can tell you with confirmation from "University Park" that their solution to our state's demographic cliff coming in 2025 they're ramping up out of state recruitment. Expect 60% of "University Park" students to be out of state by 2025.

[PSACfan1]

Well your side has had control of the legislature and nothing gets fixed. Fat Yinzer Corbett ****ed over public education in PA when all he had to fo is tax the frackers like they do in every state where they frack.

My side? I never said I was republican lol.

[Ship69]

I can tell you with confirmation from "University Park" that their solution to our state's demographic cliff coming in 2025 they're ramping up out of state recruitment. Expect 60% of "University Park" students to be out of state by 2025.

They'll have to shave their out-of-state rate quite a bit to be competitive with public universities in other states.

[Fightingscot82]

I can tell you with confirmation from "University Park" that their solution to our state's demographic cliff coming in 2025 they're ramping up out of state recruitment. Expect 60% of "University Park" students to be out of state by 2025.

[IUPNation]

You constantly act like the Dems provide any better solutions when NONE of them are sane which makes sense as to why you parrot their nonsense.

Well your side has had control of the legislature and nothing gets fixed. Fat Yinzer Corbett ****ed over public education in PA when all he had to fo is tax the frackers like they do in every state where they frack.

[iupgroundhog]

You constantly act like the Dems provide any better solutions when NONE of them are sane which makes sense as to why you parrot their nonsense.

Well, when it comes to public education in PA, he's right. Every Republican administration has decreased support for public education in the state and every Democratic administration has sought to reverse the damage done by Republicans. This is a severe thing in PA and it holds true for every level of public education. As I'm sure I mentioned in this thread somewhere there is an influential wing of the PA Republican Party that literally places no value in public education. I think every Pennsylvanian should understand this when they step into the voting booth.

[PSACfan1]

You constantly act like the Dems provide any better solutions when NONE of them are sane which makes sense as to why you parrot their nonsense.

[IUPNation]

The state as a whole does not support higher education, or public education for that matter, in the manner that it should, and the data supporting that is abundant. I agree with regard to the Penn State branches vs. PASSHE. The PSU branches are one of our biggest competitors at Ship. One problem is that Penn State is the big name and presents a unified front in lobbying state legislators.PASSHE has to get stronger in that area. A few months back, a Montgomery County legislator asked why the state insists on providing as much or more aid to "state-related" schools than to the state system it actually owns. It's a good question.

[iupgroundhog]

I'm not forgiving their misdeads real or alleged. My only feeling is that closing Cheyney would have tested the public's appetite for closing campuses. I would bet if we polled the legislature right now most would favor keeping the Penn State BFE campuses over a struggling school like Clarion or Mansfield. Both PASSHE and our fellow PASSHE school alumni need to be ready for this fight for our survival.

You could be right. I've always looked at Cheyney's situation as a different thing from the other schools.