Transfer Portal '23....

[Fightingscot82]

Nope. The transfer rules changed everything.

Frank and the Angelo regime snatched up every stud out there who got in trouble and needed a second (or third) chance. Back then to go D1 to D1 players had to sit out a year, so coming down and playing immediately was much more appealing. Keep in mind, too, the Frank era was largely pre-internet. So, a lot of the 'rap sheets' could be hidden much more easily. Frank and Angelo also had a lot of money to spend.

I watched a lot of IUP teams in the 90s that had so much more talent than the teams they were playing most weeks that it was almost sickening. Frank's rosters were litered with former Big East players -- he had a pipeline of Pitt, WVU, Temple, etc., players coming straight to Indiana.

Yeah it seemed like every few years IUP had at least one player who just dominated on the field. Usually a RB but I remember Jason Capizzi out there towering over everyone like the German giant at the beginning of Gladiator. Those pre-internet days were also when a coach would call up his network and say "Hey I've got a running back for you in need of a new home. He's an angel" and like that you get a Temple player. That's how Edinboro landed McDonalds All American Jody Dickerson from Michigan State. The internet era is what brought down the Armenti-Luckhardt era. All of those black eyes were only known because of the internet and social media.

I've warmed a bit on my view of JoePa - but there have been stories coming to light about what the local police were able to bury that would have absolutely blocked his reputation as building the classiest FBS football program in the country. A former neighbor played for Paterno in the 70s and later in the NFL acknowledged that he heard lots of rumors about a player being a serial rapist but nothing came of it. He was just a creep so guys avoided him. His name came out as a sexual predator covered by the local police & media.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Honestly, with current transfer rules and internet recruiting, I don't think the Cal and IUP teams of yore would have ever happened.

Nope. The transfer rules changed everything.

Frank and the Angelo regime snatched up every stud out there who got in trouble and needed a second (or third) chance. Back then to go D1 to D1 players had to sit out a year, so coming down and playing immediately was much more appealing. Keep in mind, too, the Frank era was largely pre-internet. So, a lot of the 'rap sheets' could be hidden much more easily. Frank and Angelo also had a lot of money to spend.

I watched a lot of IUP teams in the 90s that had so much more talent than the teams they were playing most weeks that it was almost sickening. Frank's rosters were litered with former Big East players -- he had a pipeline of Pitt, WVU, Temple, etc., players coming straight to Indiana.

[Fightingscot82]

The days of the giant D1 to D2 transfers are years behind us. Now D1 transfers just go to another D1 (and avoid the bush leagues).

Even 2017 wasn't that long ago but it was a different transfer world. IUP would never get Max Redfield today. Baggage or no baggage.

The only guys you really see coming down are generally those who were D2 guys all along and were completely buried on D1 depth charts. They generally have the right size for a D1 to take a shot but that's about it.

Honestly, with current transfer rules and internet recruiting, I don't think the Cal and IUP teams of yore would have ever happened.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Most of the time, these guys who make it to a 3rd place are completely irrelevant and non factors.

The days of the giant D1 to D2 transfers are years behind us. Now D1 transfers just go to another D1 (and avoid the bush leagues).

Even 2017 wasn't that long ago but it was a different transfer world. IUP would never get Max Redfield today. Baggage or no baggage.

The only guys you really see coming down are generally those who were D2 guys all along and were completely buried on D1 depth charts. They generally have the right size for a D1 to take a shot but that's about it.

[Ram040506]

Ok...players who hop from team to team should be a red flag...I can see one transfer but when you played for Pittsburgh Central Catholic then you go to The Oakland Academy of The Remedial Arts to Gym Teacher U....I mean come on.....

Most of the time, these guys who make it to a 3rd place are completely irrelevant and non factors.

[IUPNation]

Slip gets a verbal from Pitt DL Todd Hill. Had previously played at Duquesne.

Ok...players who hop from team to team should be a red flag...I can see one transfer but when you played for Pittsburgh Central Catholic then you go to The Oakland Academy of The Remedial Arts to Gym Teacher U....I mean come on.....

[Ram Tough]

Warm body for practice and kid gets to tell his friends he's D1.

And have everything paid for.

[Ship69]

Wow to think a D1 program believes the kid from Ship can play at that level is a real head scratcher for sure. No wonder USF stinks.

Don't really care about USF. The kid played well as a freshman at Ship and will be a significant loss if he transfers out. Can't tell the team from one year to the next any more.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Warm body for practice and kid gets to tell his friends he's D1.

When can they actually sign the dotted line?

[Ram040506]

Wow to think a D1 program believes the kid from Ship can play at that level is a real head scratcher for sure. No wonder USF stinks.

Warm body for practice and kid gets to tell his friends he's D1.

[Iupgh]

Slip gets a verbal from Pitt DL Todd Hill. Had previously played at Duquesne.

He’s a LB and a Steel Valley kid . Geez got to be his sixth or seventh year in college. Played on those Paris Ford teams way back in the day.

[Iupgh]

Obi Ezeigbo from Gannon listing offers from the real Cal, G Tech and Marshall. Ship's Ibe Diawara claims USF offer

Wow to think a D1 program believes the kid from Ship can play at that level is a real head scratcher for sure. No wonder USF stinks.

[Fightingscot82]

Slip gets a verbal from Pitt DL Todd Hill. Had previously played at Duquesne.

[RocknTheSnackBar]

Obi Ezeigbo from Gannon listing offers from the real Cal, G Tech and Marshall. Ship's Ibe Diawara claims USF offer

[EyeoftheHawk]

What is the difference between Fowler and Stewart (RB) ?

Fowler actually had huge upside and could have worked his way into being the most dominant player on the defense. He blew out his knee at the start of last season so this was his comeback year. Talent wise, I wouldn’t give one an edge over the other.

Regarding the crime, the big difference based on what has been reported is severity of the alleged crimes. Fowler’s bail amount was significant to the point of it being clear that whatever he did was really bad and not just a misunderstanding or brief lack of good judgement.