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  • Fightingscot82
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    18 scholarships would make this a 5 school conference.

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  • Ship69
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    Originally posted by Ram040506 View Post

    Yea, I can't get there. I think there at least should be a minimum of say 18 equivalencies to be D2. D2 should have 18-36 max equivalencies and if you can't fund at least the 18, you should move to D3. We don't need another division of small school football.
    Well, my suggestion was 15-20. It's apparent that nobody in our conference can do the 36, and most are not even close. Given demographics and costs these days, more than 20 scholies is a lot for a small school to put out.

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  • IUPNation
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    Originally posted by WarriorVoice View Post

    I feel for your classmates...:p)
    You mean the bullies who called me homophobic slurs back in the day? They could barely look at me as I said hello…typical right wing 🐈’s.

    I guess you know something about bullying being that Scoreboardgate was form of bullying.

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  • Boro33
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    Originally posted by Ram040506 View Post

    Totally understand, and I'm good with it. I think it would help the overall product be more consistent across the country as well.
    West Chester has approx 13 equivalencies (at best). They are well behind Shep.

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  • Ram040506
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post


    The 'definition' of 'scholarship' is very vague in the D2 world.

    Just in our conference, you have the Catholic blue-light specials, the West Chester creative accounting, etc.

    For this to work, all schools would have to report 'football aid' or whatever you want to phrase it in the same manner.
    Totally understand, and I'm good with it. I think it would help the overall product be more consistent across the country as well.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by Ram040506 View Post

    Yea, I can't get there. I think there at least should be a minimum of say 18 equivalencies to be D2. D2 should have 18-36 max equivalencies and if you can't fund at least the 18, you should move to D3. We don't need another division of small school football.

    The 'definition' of 'scholarship' is very vague in the D2 world.

    Just in our conference, you have the Catholic blue-light specials, the West Chester creative accounting, etc.

    For this to work, all schools would have to report 'football aid' or whatever you want to phrase it in the same manner.

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  • Ram040506
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    Originally posted by Ship69 View Post

    My view, which is probably not a popular one and is not going to happen, is that they need a division with a cap of about 15-20 scholarship equivalencies. The jump from zero to 36 is quite a leap, and it's a leap that most schools obviously aren't making. I figure you might get 80-100 schools in a division with a 20-scholarship cap. Make another division with a 40 cap, similar to the current division 2, and let the teams that have bigger football aspirations play there. In any given year, you probably only have a couple of dozen teams, if that, who are playing top-level Division 2 football now, and they basically beat the crap out of everyone else.
    Yea, I can't get there. I think there at least should be a minimum of say 18 equivalencies to be D2. D2 should have 18-36 max equivalencies and if you can't fund at least the 18, you should move to D3. We don't need another division of small school football.

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  • Fightingscot82
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    Originally posted by Ship69 View Post

    My view, which is probably not a popular one and is not going to happen, is that they need a division with a cap of about 15-20 scholarship equivalencies. The jump from zero to 36 is quite a leap, and it's a leap that most schools obviously aren't making. I figure you might get 80-100 schools in a division with a 20-scholarship cap. Make another division with a 40 cap, similar to the current division 2, and let the teams that have bigger football aspirations play there. In any given year, you probably only have a couple of dozen teams, if that, who are playing top-level Division 2 football now, and they basically beat the crap out of everyone else.
    I don't think the NCAA wants to further separate football. There's already concern that schools will want to split FBS. There's a similar chasm in FCS.

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  • Ship69
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    Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

    None. Nobody sniffing 30 let alone 36.
    My view, which is probably not a popular one and is not going to happen, is that they need a division with a cap of about 15-20 scholarship equivalencies. The jump from zero to 36 is quite a leap, and it's a leap that most schools obviously aren't making. I figure you might get 80-100 schools in a division with a 20-scholarship cap. Make another division with a 40 cap, similar to the current division 2, and let the teams that have bigger football aspirations play there. In any given year, you probably only have a couple of dozen teams, if that, who are playing top-level Division 2 football now, and they basically beat the crap out of everyone else.

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  • Boro33
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    Isn't being the OC at Shep kind of the same as being the DC for Tomlin (i.e. it's in title only)?
    Almost. "OC" calls and coordinates passing game at Shep. HC does run game.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by Boro33 View Post

    I would offer a different take on both accounts.
    1. Shep has more $ than any other PSAC outside of Slip and possibly IUP.
    2. The QB at Shep was not the problem. HC hired an "OC" that had never called an offense. History as a Def Coord. The QB was 3rd in the nation with 69.8 pass completion. Very athletic and has a very strong arm. To the best of my knowledge he had a few FCS offers and a major PWO.
    Isn't being the OC at Shep kind of the same as being the DC for Tomlin (i.e. it's in title only)?

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  • Fightingscot82
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    Musa Tama, Seton Hill
    First team PSAC West linebacker
    Grad transfer

    Ryan Cochran, Edinboro
    Transferring to play baseball

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  • Boro33
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    Originally posted by RamPride View Post

    Money, Shepherd not fully funded and as of this point no capable QB on roster..
    I would offer a different take on both accounts.
    1. Shep has more $ than any other PSAC outside of Slip and possibly IUP.
    2. The QB at Shep was not the problem. HC hired an "OC" that had never called an offense. History as a Def Coord. The QB was 3rd in the nation with 69.8 pass completion. Very athletic and has a very strong arm. To the best of my knowledge he had a few FCS offers and a major PWO.
    Last edited by Boro33; 11-25-2024, 07:23 AM.

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  • WarriorVoice
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    Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

    Plus going to Catholic Schools suck. I wish I had never gone to one..and I’m going to my high school reunion tonight. Ugh.
    I feel for your classmates...:p)

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  • Fightingscot82
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    Originally posted by Ship69 View Post

    Well, there are probably few, if any, teams in the PSAC that are fully funded these days. It just seems Shepherd is getting more activity in the portal than usual. Have they lost some of the funding they had?
    None. Nobody sniffing 30 let alone 36.

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