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    Not sure how they schedule but it seems like a lot of teams have extended home stands and then extended road trips. Next year the ROCK's crossover games and first western game are all on the road. IUP Has a similar schedule.

    This week, Cal plays its first road game since October 12th last year at Seton Hill. Thats 10 straight home games. 3 of the games were because their seeding was high in the playoffs.

    Sure, seems like there should be a better way.

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    Originally posted by TheROCK View Post
    Not sure how they schedule but it seems like a lot of teams have extended home stands and then extended road trips. Next year the ROCK's crossover games and first western game are all on the road. IUP Has a similar schedule.

    This week, Cal plays its first road game since October 12th last year at Seton Hill. Thats 10 straight home games. 3 of the games were because their seeding was high in the playoffs.

    Sure, seems like there should be a better way.

    Sounds similar to IUP playing Cal and SRU back-to-back just about every year.

    Quite a coincidence.

    Last year IUP's first home game was just about in October. It sucked. Same thing next year.

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    • #3
      Nobody said The Home Office In Lock Haven did anything well….

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      • #4
        Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post


        Sounds similar to IUP playing Cal and SRU back-to-back just about every year.

        Quite a coincidence.

        Last year IUP's first home game was just about in October. It sucked. Same thing next year.
        IUP could have prevented it by flipping the site of the Ashland series…why go on the road to Ashland when your crossovers are in the road?

        The Home Office should space out the cross overs. One in September, one in October and then the finale in November. But what do I know? I just do scheduling for a living….

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        • #5
          Shepherd is going to have their first home game this week after 3 straight on the road. But next year they'll be 3 straight at home to start the year, guess you win some you lose some.

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          • #6
            I'm a little surprised that none of our teams opted to play on Halloween night this year. I know that Friday isn't a preferred game night since it means foregoing some recruit visits but holiday games are fairly rare and this one would only require a change of one day instead of a drastic shift like a Wednesday or Thursday. It's not a "school night" either unlike the Thursday openers some of our teams played.
            “No matter how badly things get blown apart, we will always plant flowers again.”

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            • #7
              Originally posted by TheBigCat2192 View Post
              I'm a little surprised that none of our teams opted to play on Halloween night this year. I know that Friday isn't a preferred game night since it means foregoing some recruit visits but holiday games are fairly rare and this one would only require a change of one day instead of a drastic shift like a Wednesday or Thursday. It's not a "school night" either unlike the Thursday openers some of our teams played.
              Well some do masquerade as foosball teams…

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              • #8
                Off topic but the rumor circulating in the Yinzerlands is the WPIAL will be playing football games next season on Thursday, Friday and Saturday.

                The reason is they are drastically short on officials. Many officials will get multiple games per week to cover the load.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
                  Off topic but the rumor circulating in the Yinzerlands is the WPIAL will be playing football games next season on Thursday, Friday and Saturday.

                  The reason is they are drastically short on officials. Many officials will get multiple games per week to cover the load.
                  They do that in Maryland now. Been that way for a few years.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
                    Off topic but the rumor circulating in the Yinzerlands is the WPIAL will be playing football games next season on Thursday, Friday and Saturday.

                    The reason is they are drastically short on officials. Many officials will get multiple games per week to cover the load.
                    And in some cases they use only a five man crew

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TheROCK View Post
                      Not sure how they schedule but it seems like a lot of teams have extended home stands and then extended road trips. Next year the ROCK's crossover games and first western game are all on the road. IUP Has a similar schedule.

                      This week, Cal plays its first road game since October 12th last year at Seton Hill. Thats 10 straight home games. 3 of the games were because their seeding was high in the playoffs.

                      Sure, seems like there should be a better way.
                      I took a look at Cal's Schedule....last year (2024, they played 5 of their first 6 games on the road, and if you want to take it back a year from there (2023), 8 of their last 10 games were played on the road.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
                        Off topic but the rumor circulating in the Yinzerlands is the WPIAL will be playing football games next season on Thursday, Friday and Saturday.

                        The reason is they are drastically short on officials. Many officials will get multiple games per week to cover the load.
                        They've been doing that in the Mid-Penn Conference for a while now. Officiating is not an easy job, and with the kind of abuse you have to take both at games and online now there are fewer and fewer people who want to take it on. I'm certainly not saying I've never shouted unkind things at officials, but let's face it — without them we don't have sports. I have a friend who was considering becoming a PIAA official for basketball, but he took so much crap officiating a local YMCA game (much of it coming from a guy he considered a friend) that he decided against it. On the few occasions I've been asked to call fouls at basketball games I've been lousy at it. If you don't make the calls quickly and decisively, it goes south for you in short order.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ship69 View Post

                          They've been doing that in the Mid-Penn Conference for a while now. Officiating is not an easy job, and with the kind of abuse you have to take both at games and online now there are fewer and fewer people who want to take it on. I'm certainly not saying I've never shouted unkind things at officials, but let's face it — without them we don't have sports. I have a friend who was considering becoming a PIAA official for basketball, but he took so much crap officiating a local YMCA game (much of it coming from a guy he considered a friend) that he decided against it. On the few occasions I've been asked to call fouls at basketball games I've been lousy at it. If you don't make the calls quickly and decisively, it goes south for you in short order.

                          It's an absolutely brutal job.

                          Our crowds in D2 are lame and dull -- and it is still tough. I can't imagine what the officials put up with at the D1 level.

                          Basketball is the worst by far. The crowd is right on top of you. At the KCAC, for example, Row 1 is literally about 24" from the court. Same at Gannon. Add the ego-maniac coaches, etc. Those guys take a beating. When you subtract the travel, time, etc., they don't make much, either. Not to mention traveling all over in January and February in this Region isn't a pleasant experience.

                          At least in football most of our stadiums have a track, which forms a natural buffer from the crowd.

                          The conundrum, obviously, is bad officials are better than no officials. But, as you've read on this board from numerous posters (many different schools), officiating in the PSAC is near rock bottom from a quality standpoint.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post


                            It's an absolutely brutal job.

                            Our crowds in D2 are lame and dull -- and it is still tough. I can't imagine what the officials put up with at the D1 level.

                            Basketball is the worst by far. The crowd is right on top of you. At the KCAC, for example, Row 1 is literally about 24" from the court. Same at Gannon. Add the ego-maniac coaches, etc. Those guys take a beating. When you subtract the travel, time, etc., they don't make much, either. Not to mention traveling all over in January and February in this Region isn't a pleasant experience.

                            At least in football most of our stadiums have a track, which forms a natural buffer from the crowd.

                            The conundrum, obviously, is bad officials are better than no officials. But, as you've read on this board from numerous posters (many different schools), officiating in the PSAC is near rock bottom from a quality standpoint.
                            It doesn't happen too often but it does happen - a lot of these guys officiate multiple levels and leagues with different sets of rules, so sometimes they call a high school rule or forget to call a college rule. I can't blame them fully because its an easy mistake to make. I once made that mistake umpiring baseball between two different age groups in the same league. Nobody wants robot officials but they expect robotic consistency.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

                              It doesn't happen too often but it does happen - a lot of these guys officiate multiple levels and leagues with different sets of rules, so sometimes they call a high school rule or forget to call a college rule. I can't blame them fully because its an easy mistake to make. I once made that mistake umpiring baseball between two different age groups in the same league. Nobody wants robot officials but they expect robotic consistency.
                              Mistakes will always happen. That's part of it.

                              It's the little things. I can't tell you the last time I saw a D2 crew measure for a first down. It's been YEARS.

                              My absolute biggest beef is on the basketball side. I just cannot stand when a crew will let the teams beat the hell out of each other the entire first half, and then flip a switch at halftime and call every ticky-tack foul imaginable. It's like watching two different games.

                              I've seen so many D2 basketball games I know the crews pretty well. I can tell you what kind of game it will be in warm-ups. We have one crew in particular which is the 'look at us the whole game' ... they ruin every game and call about 100 fouls.

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