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    Will there be a 2020 season? If so, will be it modified in anyway? Shortened season?

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    I think it will be fan-less games with players being tested prior to the games. Whether that will just be at the D1 level is a whole other question, but I think that will for sure at least apply to D1. The TV revenue is too much to miss out on. It funds their entire athletic departments.

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    • #3
      I think we'll see fan-less sports until next baseball season.

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      • #4
        If they don't stop screwing around and get around to testing everyone, we might not get football this year.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by bigmrg74 View Post
          If they don't stop screwing around and get around to testing everyone, we might not get football this year.
          I think testing will be mass-produced enough and at a low-enough cost and at a rapid-enough result rate where many sports will be able to test everyone playing/coaching/staffing events on the spot and get immediate results and we'll have sports. That's why I think we'll see sports come fall, because CFB and the NFL will gladly pony up the money for 400 test kits for each game that provide immediate results and they'll just quarantine anyone who tests positive and not allow them to play/coach/work until they recover.

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          • #6
            I think we’ll see football at all levels in some semblance of normality with maybe a few new stipulations added. It’s my belief that when this episode is over, many will see that there was an overreaction at some levels and push for a return to normal lifestyles ( although the definition of “normal” will certainly change”). After the majority of the population has been exposed to this virus, it becomes (just another virus) like the flu and the common cold (which tens of thousands of people die from every year and nobody panics). Please, please don’t take my statement as uncaring or playing down the corona virus. It is certainly dangerous to many people, mostly the same people that should take precautions against the flu, etc. Athletes in good physical condition are in the category of least likely to be seriously affected by this virus. While it’s true that this virus could rampage through a football locker room because of the close quarters and nature of the sport, so can the flu.....And we’ve seen examples of that happening in the past. Bad for the team that it happens to, but still no need to panic. I write this knowing that I will likely be attacked by some as being cold and uncaring, but I see my response as simply realistic and optimistic. Let the battles begin!!!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by KleShreen View Post

              I think testing will be mass-produced enough and at a low-enough cost and at a rapid-enough result rate where many sports will be able to test everyone playing/coaching/staffing events on the spot and get immediate results and we'll have sports. That's why I think we'll see sports come fall, because CFB and the NFL will gladly pony up the money for 400 test kits for each game that provide immediate results and they'll just quarantine anyone who tests positive and not allow them to play/coach/work until they recover.
              They definitely have the rapid test right now. The issue is cost at around $60 per test. But the results are as immediate as a pregnancy test. What we really need ASAP is an antibody test. Who knows how many of us are a part of the 18-25% that contracted the virus without having symptoms.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BeachinLaker View Post

                They definitely have the rapid test right now. The issue is cost at around $60 per test. But the results are as immediate as a pregnancy test. What we really need ASAP is an antibody test. Who knows how many of us are a part of the 18-25% that contracted the virus without having symptoms.
                But so far there is no evidence of any lasting immunity from contracting the virus and recovering from it. China and South Korea are currently going through second waves where a number of people who were positive a few months age, then tested negative, are now positive again. They are trying to determine if there is just no lasting immunity, or if the virus is never actually defeated and just goes dormant until flaring up again randomly. And they have no idea how long people are contagious if the latter is the case.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Thelakerman View Post
                  I think we’ll see football at all levels in some semblance of normality with maybe a few new stipulations added. It’s my belief that when this episode is over, many will see that there was an overreaction at some levels and push for a return to normal lifestyles ( although the definition of “normal” will certainly change”). After the majority of the population has been exposed to this virus, it becomes (just another virus) like the flu and the common cold (which tens of thousands of people die from every year and nobody panics). Please, please don’t take my statement as uncaring or playing down the corona virus. It is certainly dangerous to many people, mostly the same people that should take precautions against the flu, etc. Athletes in good physical condition are in the category of least likely to be seriously affected by this virus. While it’s true that this virus could rampage through a football locker room because of the close quarters and nature of the sport, so can the flu.....And we’ve seen examples of that happening in the past. Bad for the team that it happens to, but still no need to panic. I write this knowing that I will likely be attacked by some as being cold and uncaring, but I see my response as simply realistic and optimistic. Let the battles begin!!!
                  I don't think the worry is about it going through a football locker room. The issue would be about it going through a stadium full of 110,000 people, many of which are at higher risk for complications. And there is no evidence of any lasting immunity from contracting the virus/disease and recovering. Mounting evidence is showing that it just goes dormant until flaring up again, and that the body doesn't produce enough antibodies on its own to actually defeat it.

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                  • #10
                    If there is no season in 2020 I dont think you will need to worry about most schools for 2021...they will drop their programs due to cost. Thats ALL programs including football...many programs are so over extended that every missing a few games is going to be an issue. Shorten seasons will perhaps save football but the non rev sports are flat gone. The D2 model will start to look very good to many schools that should have never gone D1 in the first place. Way to early to guess but if the kids are not back on the field by August I think its pretty much over for this year. Revenues will drop and its going to look quite ugly...this could be the one that makes us all wake up and get college fixed once and for all...the money has gone crazy...is any coach worth 5 million? I guess we are going to see real soon. No politics here but this going to get very very ugly. Anyone want to go to a Wayne State game soon? Those hot spots are a war zone..its tough to compare all the sites...but whats gotta happen is a vaccine before anyone gets back for sure...

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                    • #11
                      The Ohio state AD has summed up my stance pretty well on playing without fans.
                      "That one I've thought about a little bit, I struggle with that concept. When I first heard [games without fans] I said, 'OK, that could work.' But if we don't have fans in the stands we've determined it's not safe for them in a gathering environment. Why would it be safe for the players?"

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by twolfbenchwarmer View Post
                        The Ohio state AD has summed up my stance pretty well on playing without fans.
                        "That one I've thought about a little bit, I struggle with that concept. When I first heard [games without fans] I said, 'OK, that could work.' But if we don't have fans in the stands we've determined it's not safe for them in a gathering environment. Why would it be safe for the players?"
                        I would suppose there is a logic that states that the environment could be a bit more "controlled" without fans. It's not a stretch to think that a far more accurate and quick test could be widely available by that point (120+ days away), and players, coaches, officials, and game crew would be tested a set amount of time prior to the game. Pre-game fever checks would also be a likely part of the equation. The NCAA could limit both teams to a travel-roster, so you'd have about 110 total players. Add in coaches, crew, officials, and you could keep the whole enterprise to roughly 200-250 people. Sticking with the OSU example, 250 people is a FAR more controlled environment than the 100,000+ that would typically be involved at The Shoe. I find it curious to think that the OSU AD couldn't walk himself into that conclusion, but whatever.

                        With all of that said, there is still so damn much we don't know about this garbage that I'm starting to align to an extreme version of what Mrs. Melon suggests: if a lot isn't figured out by August, this season will be lost.

                        I also agree with what she suggests about the long-term damage to programs. On these very boards, I have talked at length about how many schools are in untenable positions with their choice of division. I have also talked about how the NCAA has, in many ways, outlived its usefulness to a large cross-section of its members. We may see more and more of those scenarios become painfully apparent in the weeks and months to come. Once we succeed in knocking down this virus, much of how we approach our world will likely be forever changed. The sports we love will undoubtedly have impacts to them that we haven't even thought about yet...

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                        • #13
                          Definitely would be a much more controlled environment without fans, and as a player I’d want to play regardless. The season is a long way away, but I don’t think the cutoff number for gatherings is going to be large enough to have a 200-250 person event. I could see basketball, baseball, or hockey starting up again with 25-60 allowed. When this thing started I thought they wanted to stop gatherings at 50, if you get to 200+ gatherings allowed there likely wouldn’t be much of a cap at all.

                          It’ll be interesting to see how the opening up of stuff progresses next month. I want a football season to happen just very skeptical right now, If they got it to a max of 500 people there’s a few RMAC schools that could get away with having their normal crowd.

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                          • #14
                            This is from the end of March, but had how the AD’s were feeling about a football season
                            https://watchstadium.com/will-there-...in-03-30-2020/

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by twolfbenchwarmer View Post
                              This is from the end of March, but had how the AD’s were feeling about a football season
                              https://watchstadium.com/will-there-...in-03-30-2020/
                              Now there's a bunch of rumors of a football season in the spring of 2021, with a championship around memorial day.

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