Football schedule vote

[northwest missouri state]

glvc division
pitts naia friend
baker
mo valley
neb wesleyan
northeastern st
central ok
lincoln
moso

controlling costs division
nwms
ps
cm
mowest
kearney
hays
es
wburn

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i give the edge to the controlling costs....lot of powers over there....very sec west-esque.

[northwest missouri state]

I'm sure these have been floated, but haven't seen it in this thread yet. How do people feel about an East that includes all the MO schools and Pitt State and a West that includes the other 3 KS schools, both OK schools and UNK?

In terms of travel cost gripes, I would think UNK and NSU would have the most to complain about, but at least for UNK, that's almost always going to be the case. It can be resolved in the near term by having their cross-division games include the nearer teams and exclude the farther teams.

In terms of loss of historical rivalries, I think the only place that exists at all is with Pitt State and the other 3 KS schools, but 100 out of 100 Pitt State fans would prioritize the MoSo and NW rivalries and probably a majority of Pitt State fans wouldn't have the 3 KS schools slotted any higher than MW and UCM.

i think we should invite the blind indian school pitt used to schedule & beat by 100 along w/ baker, mo valley, & nebraska wesleyan. then we can split into divisions w/ exclusive scheduling w/in said div's, teams w/ the best records all play each other at the end of the yr. whomever's in first is in a ccg, we'll play it at the soccer park until they kick us out.

[northwest missouri state]

maybe?
i don't think the schools are any more honest than the league is when giving "reasons" for questionable decisions.

[GorillaBred]

I'm sure these have been floated, but haven't seen it in this thread yet. How do people feel about an East that includes all the MO schools and Pitt State and a West that includes the other 3 KS schools, both OK schools and UNK?

In terms of travel cost gripes, I would think UNK and NSU would have the most to complain about, but at least for UNK, that's almost always going to be the case. It can be resolved in the near term by having their cross-division games include the nearer teams and exclude the farther teams.

In terms of loss of historical rivalries, I think the only place that exists at all is with Pitt State and the other 3 KS schools, but 100 out of 100 Pitt State fans would prioritize the MoSo and NW rivalries and probably a majority of Pitt State fans wouldn't have the 3 KS schools slotted any higher than MW and UCM.

[Predatory Primates]

I think both would have bolted, either way. They just fit better there. The GLVC has other schools who offer all the sports that they do, they fit geographically, and they seem to follow the same funding mindset that most GLVC schools do.

[Brandon]

I don't understand why geography is being used as the main criteria in football when we are currently playing everyone so travel obviously isn't a huge hardship.

I mean, you are playing all but 2 no matter what. Obviously, it should be considered some, but i think competitive balance and preserving rivalries should be more important.

Because controlling costs was one of the reasons given for expansion and for the incestuous scheduling. It's a compromise.

I did some research and found that there were many schools closer to UCO than NW and visa versa.

Side Note: Let's pretend that some combination of UNK, FHSU, UCO, and NSU hadn't joined the MIAA. Do you think Truman State and Lindenwood would still have bolted to the GLVC?

[Predatory Primates]

I don't understand why geography is being used as the main criteria in football when we are currently playing everyone so travel obviously isn't a huge hardship.

I mean, you are playing all but 2 no matter what. Obviously, it should be considered some, but i think competitive balance and preserving rivalries should be more important.

[Randy]

For what it's worth, these are the divisions in basketball this year (with non-football schools Newman and Rogers State):



Last year Pittsburg State and Missouri Southern were in the western division while Lindenwood and Southwest Baptist were in the eastern.

This makes no since to me. The obvious split is a straight line from the top right to the bottom left. 7 teams on each side of the line and the only "scheduling pair" that is split is CentralOK/Newman which have never been rivals.

[Inkblot]

For what it's worth, these are the divisions in basketball this year (with non-football schools Newman and Rogers State):



Last year Pittsburg State and Missouri Southern were in the western division while Lindenwood and Southwest Baptist were in the eastern.

[Predatory Primates]

I would prefer the one where Lincoln and nsu cancel football.

[Brandon]

The one on the right separates Hays/Kearney & Emporia/Washburn.

Agreed Randy. I think the first one makes the most sense but some NW/UCM folks might object to it.

[northwest missouri state]

if we're going to screw this up we should really go for the gusto,

jesse james division
nwms
wburn
nk
hays
es
co

wyatt earp division
ps
nest
moso
cm
mowest
lincoln

then every yr we can play pitt in stillwell (since they don't like camarohead) to settle this thing once & for all.

[Randy]

I think these two make the most sense.

The one on the right separates Hays/Kearney & Emporia/Washburn.

[Brandon]

I think these two make the most sense.

[Predatory Primates]

Brandon has been floating a rotating plan for years. I think that some kind of rotation would be best.