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  • #31
    Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

    Originally posted by laker View Post
    The WAC is currently at nine.

    Cal-Baptist joins this year from D2

    CSU-Bakersfield will be leaving for the Big West in 2020

    Chicago State still seems to be breathing

    Grand Canyon is doing very well

    UMKC is still D1 for now

    New Mexico State still hopes for an invite from an FBS conference

    Seattle still hopes to go to the WCC

    UTRGV is the only D1 school that I don't have a cap from........yet. Oops- I need a Cal Baptist one now too.

    Utah Valley is a school that I know very little about

    Since New Mexico State is the only school which plays football, I see no benefit to moving down to FCS. Scholarships are the same for FBS and FCS except for football which is a moot point in this case.

    I really hope this isn’t where we end up. I’d much rather be DII than a member of this mess.

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    • #32
      Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

      Originally posted by TexanFan View Post
      Since New Mexico State is the only school which plays football, I see no benefit to moving down to FCS. Scholarships are the same for FBS and FCS except for football which is a moot point in this case.

      I really hope this isn’t where we end up. I’d much rather be DII than a member of this mess.

      New Mexico State plays football? BWHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!!

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      • #33
        Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

        Originally posted by Herb Street View Post
        New Mexico State plays football? BWHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!!
        Arizona Bowl Champs!

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        • #34
          Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

          Originally posted by TexanFan View Post
          Since New Mexico State is the only school which plays football, I see no benefit to moving down to FCS. Scholarships are the same for FBS and FCS except for football which is a moot point in this case.

          I really hope this isn’t where we end up. I’d much rather be DII than a member of this mess.
          It’s not “moving down to FCS”. D1 is D1. They would just be adding football that would be played at the FCS level.

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          • #35
            Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

            Originally posted by LSCfan1 View Post
            It’s not “moving down to FCS”. D1 is D1. They would just be adding football that would be played at the FCS level.
            Come on down to FCS! :good:

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            • #36
              Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

              I think a revamped WAC could be interesting. Here is a possible scenario with the GNAC collapsing and the LSC schools contemplating a move:

              Angelo State University (San Angelo, TX)
              Azusa Pacific University (Azusa, CA)
              California Baptist (Riverside, CA)
              Central Washington University (Ellensburg, WA)
              Grand Canyon University (Phoenix, AZ)
              University of Missouri-Kansas City (Kansas City, MO)
              New Mexico State University (Las Cruces, NM)
              Seattle University (Seattle, WA)
              Tarleton State University (Stephenville, TX)
              Texas A&M University Commerce (Commerce, TX)
              Texas A&M University Kingsville (Kingsville, TX)
              UT Rio Grande Valley (Edinburg, TX)
              Utah Valley University (Orem, UT)
              West Texas A&M University (Canyon, TX)

              Football
              Angelo State
              Azusa Pacific
              Central Washington
              Tarleton State
              Texas A&M Commerce
              Texas A&M Kingsville
              West Texas A&M
              *NM State I assume would stay FBS*

              Olympic Sports

              West
              Azusa Pacific University (Azusa, CA)
              California Baptist (Riverside, CA)
              Central Washington University (Ellensburg, WA)
              Grand Canyon University (Phoenix, AZ)
              New Mexico State University (Las Cruces, NM)
              Seattle University (Seattle, WA)
              Utah Valley University (Orem, UT)

              East
              Angelo State University (San Angelo, TX)
              University of Missouri-Kansas City (Kansas City, MO)
              Tarleton State University (Stephenville, TX)
              Texas A&M University Commerce (Commerce, TX)
              Texas A&M University Kingsville (Kingsville, TX)
              UT Rio Grande Valley (Edinburg, TX)
              West Texas A&M University (Canyon, TX)

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              • #37
                Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

                Originally posted by WT_ALUM08 View Post
                I think a revamped WAC could be interesting. Here is a possible scenario with the GNAC collapsing and the LSC schools contemplating a move:

                Angelo State University (San Angelo, TX)
                Azusa Pacific University (Azusa, CA)
                California Baptist (Riverside, CA)
                Central Washington University (Ellensburg, WA)
                Grand Canyon University (Phoenix, AZ)
                University of Missouri-Kansas City (Kansas City, MO)
                New Mexico State University (Las Cruces, NM)
                Seattle University (Seattle, WA)
                Tarleton State University (Stephenville, TX)
                Texas A&M University Commerce (Commerce, TX)
                Texas A&M University Kingsville (Kingsville, TX)
                UT Rio Grande Valley (Edinburg, TX)
                Utah Valley University (Orem, UT)
                West Texas A&M University (Canyon, TX)

                Football
                Angelo State
                Azusa Pacific
                Central Washington
                Tarleton State
                Texas A&M Commerce
                Texas A&M Kingsville
                West Texas A&M
                *NM State I assume would stay FBS*

                Olympic Sports

                West
                Azusa Pacific University (Azusa, CA)
                California Baptist (Riverside, CA)
                Central Washington University (Ellensburg, WA)
                Grand Canyon University (Phoenix, AZ)
                New Mexico State University (Las Cruces, NM)
                Seattle University (Seattle, WA)
                Utah Valley University (Orem, UT)

                East
                Angelo State University (San Angelo, TX)
                University of Missouri-Kansas City (Kansas City, MO)
                Tarleton State University (Stephenville, TX)
                Texas A&M University Commerce (Commerce, TX)
                Texas A&M University Kingsville (Kingsville, TX)
                UT Rio Grande Valley (Edinburg, TX)
                West Texas A&M University (Canyon, TX)
                Nominated for POY.

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                • #38
                  Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

                  Originally posted by WT_ALUM08 View Post
                  I think a revamped WAC could be interesting. Here is a possible scenario with the GNAC collapsing and the LSC schools contemplating a move:

                  Angelo State University (San Angelo, TX)
                  Azusa Pacific University (Azusa, CA)
                  California Baptist (Riverside, CA)
                  Central Washington University (Ellensburg, WA)
                  Grand Canyon University (Phoenix, AZ)
                  University of Missouri-Kansas City (Kansas City, MO)
                  New Mexico State University (Las Cruces, NM)
                  Seattle University (Seattle, WA)
                  Tarleton State University (Stephenville, TX)
                  Texas A&M University Commerce (Commerce, TX)
                  Texas A&M University Kingsville (Kingsville, TX)
                  UT Rio Grande Valley (Edinburg, TX)
                  Utah Valley University (Orem, UT)
                  West Texas A&M University (Canyon, TX)

                  Football
                  Angelo State
                  Azusa Pacific
                  Central Washington
                  Tarleton State
                  Texas A&M Commerce
                  Texas A&M Kingsville
                  West Texas A&M
                  *NM State I assume would stay FBS*

                  Olympic Sports

                  West
                  Azusa Pacific University (Azusa, CA)
                  California Baptist (Riverside, CA)
                  Central Washington University (Ellensburg, WA)
                  Grand Canyon University (Phoenix, AZ)
                  New Mexico State University (Las Cruces, NM)
                  Seattle University (Seattle, WA)
                  Utah Valley University (Orem, UT)

                  East
                  Angelo State University (San Angelo, TX)
                  University of Missouri-Kansas City (Kansas City, MO)
                  Tarleton State University (Stephenville, TX)
                  Texas A&M University Commerce (Commerce, TX)
                  Texas A&M University Kingsville (Kingsville, TX)
                  UT Rio Grande Valley (Edinburg, TX)
                  West Texas A&M University (Canyon, TX)
                  Only one problem, NMSU got kicked out of the WAC.
                  I have fat thumbs sorry for typos!

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                  • #39
                    Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

                    Originally posted by Boohaha View Post
                    Only one problem, NMSU got kicked out of the WAC.
                    Um.... no they didnt.

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                    • #40
                      Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

                      Originally posted by Boohaha View Post
                      Only one problem, NMSU got kicked out of the WAC.
                      New Mexico State got booted from their football-only Sun Belt Conference membership. Their all-sports membership in the WAC is still intact and they're probably the cornerstone member of that league right now.

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                      • #41
                        Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

                        Originally posted by Herb Street View Post
                        New Mexico State plays football? BWHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!!
                        'Not so fast' as Lee Corso would say. The Aggies had an exemplary season (7-6) and won their post season Bowl game against Utah State in the Arizona Bowl. Ironically the Aggies last Bowl game was in 1960 against the same Utah State Aggies.

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                        • #42
                          Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

                          Originally posted by WT_ALUM08 View Post
                          I think a revamped WAC could be interesting. Here is a possible scenario with the GNAC collapsing and the LSC schools contemplating a move:

                          Angelo State University (San Angelo, TX)
                          Azusa Pacific University (Azusa, CA)
                          California Baptist (Riverside, CA)
                          Central Washington University (Ellensburg, WA)
                          Grand Canyon University (Phoenix, AZ)
                          University of Missouri-Kansas City (Kansas City, MO)
                          New Mexico State University (Las Cruces, NM)
                          Seattle University (Seattle, WA)
                          Tarleton State University (Stephenville, TX)
                          Texas A&M University Commerce (Commerce, TX)
                          Texas A&M University Kingsville (Kingsville, TX)
                          UT Rio Grande Valley (Edinburg, TX)
                          Utah Valley University (Orem, UT)
                          West Texas A&M University (Canyon, TX)

                          Football
                          Angelo State
                          Azusa Pacific
                          Central Washington
                          Tarleton State
                          Texas A&M Commerce
                          Texas A&M Kingsville
                          West Texas A&M
                          *NM State I assume would stay FBS*

                          Olympic Sports

                          West
                          Azusa Pacific University (Azusa, CA)
                          California Baptist (Riverside, CA)
                          Central Washington University (Ellensburg, WA)
                          Grand Canyon University (Phoenix, AZ)
                          New Mexico State University (Las Cruces, NM)
                          Seattle University (Seattle, WA)
                          Utah Valley University (Orem, UT)

                          East
                          Angelo State University (San Angelo, TX)
                          University of Missouri-Kansas City (Kansas City, MO)
                          Tarleton State University (Stephenville, TX)
                          Texas A&M University Commerce (Commerce, TX)
                          Texas A&M University Kingsville (Kingsville, TX)
                          UT Rio Grande Valley (Edinburg, TX)
                          West Texas A&M University (Canyon, TX)
                          Wow, you spent a lot of thought and energy into this. WAC Commissioner Hurd is in his late 60s and I do not believe he has any clout to pull this off. The WAC needs new leadership just as the LSC did when things started falling apart. The WAC needs to stop being a stepping stone for call ups. Cal Baptist is another fine example. Once they clear probation, here I come WCC. Everyone in the WAC is looking for a way out at the present time with the exception of Chicago State. They will just implode this year or next. A WAC FCS conference of D2 call ups would hopefully stabilize the situation as long as the schools have a history of playing each other and are at least regionally connected. You only need 6 for a playoff bid. If created UTRGV would definitely get football started. My guess is that NMSU would continue on indefinitely as a FBS independent until the Mountain West finally lets them in.

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                          • #43
                            Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

                            Originally posted by WT_ALUM08 View Post
                            Um.... no they didnt.
                            Oops! I forgot they went to the sunbelt for football! Ha! My bad! Really stepped in that one!
                            I have fat thumbs sorry for typos!

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                            • #44
                              Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

                              Originally posted by Herb Street View Post
                              That would be a miracle "if" for sure. WT leaving a viable D1 conference, going D2, and trying to get back to D1, would be akin to Purdue leaving the Big 10, going to the MAC, and then trying to get back in the Big 10.

                              Good luck with that.
                              At least the Boilermakers would have a winning record in the MAC. Maybe.

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                              • #45
                                Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

                                Originally posted by Michael Whitfield View Post
                                At least the Boilermakers would have a winning record in the MAC. Maybe.
                                ...

                                Purdue was 7-6 last year.

                                Perhaps you meant just in conference play? In which case 4-5 is still a really good team...

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