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  • #76
    Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

    Originally posted by Herb Street View Post
    While there are exceptions, D2 coaches usually can't get it done at D1, and that is in all sports. And I suppose the opposite could very well be true. There have been more than a few modestly successful D1 coaches that were awful in D2.

    D1 and D2 are very different animals.

    Those in athletics administration know this fully; D1 coaching hires from the D2 ranks are not very common, and when they do occur, it is most often a desperate, hail-mary move for a program struggling to stay afloat.

    Women's basketball seems to be the only sport where good D2 coaches are consistently able to transfer their prowess to D1.
    We must be very foolish then. We paid big bucks by Southland Conference standards to hire a D2 coach and turned down an assistant coach from a blue blood P5 school.

    Actually, I thought we made a good hire although I was a little concerned when he hired an almost all his staff from D2 ranks and a recruiting director with no Texas high school connections.

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    • #77
      Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

      Originally posted by catatonic View Post
      We must be very foolish then. We paid big bucks by Southland Conference standards to hire a D2 coach and turned down an assistant coach from a blue blood P5 school.

      Actually, I thought we made a good hire although I was a little concerned when he hired an almost all his staff from D2 ranks and a recruiting director with no Texas high school connections.
      Time will tell, but D2 to FCS is pretty iffy. I like Dorrel and I've always liked ACU so I hope it works out for both.

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      • #78
        Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

        Originally posted by laker View Post
        The WAC is currently at nine.

        Cal-Baptist joins this year from D2

        CSU-Bakersfield will be leaving for the Big West in 2020

        Chicago State still seems to be breathing

        Grand Canyon is doing very well

        UMKC is still D1 for now

        New Mexico State still hopes for an invite from an FBS conference

        Seattle still hopes to go to the WCC

        UTRGV is the only D1 school that I don't have a cap from........yet. Oops- I need a Cal Baptist one now too.

        Utah Valley is a school that I know very little about
        These fine institutions that currently comprise the Western Athletic Conference seem to have nothing in common. The NMSU Aggies of Las Cruces are the only University among this group that has a football program, as far as I know.

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        • #79
          Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

          Originally posted by Michael Whitfield View Post
          These fine institutions that currently comprise the Western Athletic Conference seem to have nothing in common. The NMSU Aggies of Las Cruces are the only University among this group that has a football program, as far as I know.
          You are correct. UTRGV had a study going on and would be the most likely to start a program. Utah Valley was thinking about it but that is as far as that went.

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          • #80
            Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

            Originally posted by LSCfan1 View Post
            It’s not “moving down to FCS”. D1 is D1. They would just be adding football that would be played at the FCS level.
            Not even close!!!!

            Because of alum $$ pressure, the NCAA "created" the FCS from D1aa. REAL D1(D1a) was and still is THE top level football in the NCAA......regardless of what ego's say.

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            • #81
              Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

              Originally posted by Herb Street View Post
              Fan bases don’t help fund athletic programs to any degree except for the top tier of P5 programs. All programs that are sub P5 have fickle fan bases.

              WT is D2 because they don’t have sufficient taxes from the students to pay for D1.
              Only $30+M stadiums...;)

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              • #82
                Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

                Originally posted by ASUPops View Post
                Not even close!!!!

                Because of alum $$ pressure, the NCAA "created" the FCS from D1aa. REAL D1(D1a) was and still is THE top level football in the NCAA......regardless of what ego's say.
                You are correct although Your point applies to football only. There is no difference in sports other than football. D1 is D1.

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                • #83
                  Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

                  Originally posted by ASUPops View Post
                  Not even close!!!!

                  Because of alum $$ pressure, the NCAA "created" the FCS from D1aa. REAL D1(D1a) was and still is THE top level football in the NCAA......regardless of what ego's say.
                  You could further define “real” D1 as the top half of the five P5 conferences. That’s really the NFL of college football.
                  Last edited by Herb Street; 07-23-2018, 12:59 PM.

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                  • #84
                    Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

                    Originally posted by Herb Street View Post
                    You could further define “real” D1 as the top half of the five P5 conferences. That’s really the NFL of college football.
                    True!!

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                    • #85
                      Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

                      Originally posted by catatonic View Post
                      You are correct although Your point applies to football only. There is no difference in sports other than football. D1 is D1.
                      Yes....and we are on a D2 FOOTBALL site....talking...football?

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                      • #86
                        Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

                        Originally posted by ASUPops View Post
                        Yes....and we are on a D2 FOOTBALL site....talking...football?
                        The discussion was about the WAC, which does not play football. So a D2 football site talking about a D1 basketball conference. Does that break a rule?

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                        • #87
                          Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

                          Originally posted by catatonic View Post
                          The discussion was about the WAC, which does not play football. So a D2 football site talking about a D1 basketball conference. Does that break a rule?
                          We break the rules around here all the time. Consider this forum the online version of Lord of the Flies.

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