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  • #46
    Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

    Originally posted by Michael Whitfield View Post
    At least the Boilermakers would have a winning record in the MAC. Maybe.
    I think you mean Broilermakers.

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    • #47
      Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

      Originally posted by Herb Street View Post
      I think you mean Broilermakers.
      We should be friends on Facebook. You would have all of my left-wing, psycho friends going completely nuts with some of your play on words.

      I like it!

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      • #48
        Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

        Originally posted by OPSUALUM77&81 View Post
        We should be friends on Facebook. You would have all of my left-wing, psycho friends going completely nuts with some of your play on words.

        I like it!

        Yeah too bad I don't have a facebook account. I do enjoy reading others bragging about themselves, their travels, and their kids. It's mostly women. Posting selfies fishing for praise and compliments. It's like cocaine and needing another rock - whey they haven't gotten any "wow you're hot" comments in a couple days, it's time for a new selfie, this one a bit more provocative than the last.

        I've figured out the fat chicks tend to do face selfies only, so that no one can see that they are in reality a beach ball with a head. Hey I've got no problem with fat people - I'm fat too - but I don't put out PR making it look like I'm a skinny, either.

        Interesting times.

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        • #49
          Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

          Originally posted by Herb Street View Post
          Yeah too bad I don't have a facebook account. I do enjoy reading others bragging about themselves, their travels, and their kids. It's mostly women. Posting selfies fishing for praise and compliments. It's like cocaine and needing another rock - whey they haven't gotten any "wow you're hot" comments in a couple days, it's time for a new selfie, this one a bit more provocative than the last.

          I've figured out the fat chicks tend to do face selfies only, so that no one can see that they are in reality a beach ball with a head. Hey I've got no problem with fat people - I'm fat too - but I don't put out PR making it look like I'm a skinny, either.

          Interesting times.
          Those are referred to as "Iceberg Selfies", because 95% is hidden below the surface.

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          • #50
            Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

            Originally posted by WT_ALUM08 View Post
            I think a revamped WAC could be interesting. Here is a possible scenario with the GNAC collapsing and the LSC schools contemplating a move:

            Angelo State University (San Angelo, TX)
            Azusa Pacific University (Azusa, CA)
            California Baptist (Riverside, CA)
            Central Washington University (Ellensburg, WA)
            Grand Canyon University (Phoenix, AZ)
            University of Missouri-Kansas City (Kansas City, MO)
            New Mexico State University (Las Cruces, NM)
            Seattle University (Seattle, WA)
            Tarleton State University (Stephenville, TX)
            Texas A&M University Commerce (Commerce, TX)
            Texas A&M University Kingsville (Kingsville, TX)
            UT Rio Grande Valley (Edinburg, TX)
            Utah Valley University (Orem, UT)
            West Texas A&M University (Canyon, TX)

            Football
            Angelo State
            Azusa Pacific
            Central Washington
            Tarleton State
            Texas A&M Commerce
            Texas A&M Kingsville
            West Texas A&M
            *NM State I assume would stay FBS*

            Olympic Sports

            West
            Azusa Pacific University (Azusa, CA)
            California Baptist (Riverside, CA)
            Central Washington University (Ellensburg, WA)
            Grand Canyon University (Phoenix, AZ)
            New Mexico State University (Las Cruces, NM)
            Seattle University (Seattle, WA)
            Utah Valley University (Orem, UT)

            East
            Angelo State University (San Angelo, TX)
            University of Missouri-Kansas City (Kansas City, MO)
            Tarleton State University (Stephenville, TX)
            Texas A&M University Commerce (Commerce, TX)
            Texas A&M University Kingsville (Kingsville, TX)
            UT Rio Grande Valley (Edinburg, TX)
            West Texas A&M University (Canyon, TX)
            They must be selling a lot of cheap whiskey up in the Panhandle. This reads like the musings of a drunk buffalo.

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            • #51
              Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

              Originally posted by AngeloFan View Post
              They must be selling a lot of cheap whiskey up in the Panhandle. This reads like the musings of a drunk buffalo.

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              • #52
                Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

                To be fair, I have a lot of right-wing friends that are completely psycho.

                Our country works best when we can meet in the middle and work together. (And have a little fun on a message board.)

                Have a great weekend!

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                • #53
                  Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

                  Originally posted by WT_ALUM08 View Post
                  I think a revamped WAC could be interesting. Here is a possible scenario with the GNAC collapsing and the LSC schools contemplating a move:

                  Angelo State University (San Angelo, TX)
                  Azusa Pacific University (Azusa, CA)
                  California Baptist (Riverside, CA)
                  Central Washington University (Ellensburg, WA)
                  Grand Canyon University (Phoenix, AZ)
                  University of Missouri-Kansas City (Kansas City, MO)
                  New Mexico State University (Las Cruces, NM)
                  Seattle University (Seattle, WA)
                  Tarleton State University (Stephenville, TX)
                  Texas A&M University Commerce (Commerce, TX)
                  Texas A&M University Kingsville (Kingsville, TX)
                  UT Rio Grande Valley (Edinburg, TX)
                  Utah Valley University (Orem, UT)
                  West Texas A&M University (Canyon, TX)

                  Football
                  Angelo State
                  Azusa Pacific
                  Central Washington
                  Tarleton State
                  Texas A&M Commerce
                  Texas A&M Kingsville
                  West Texas A&M
                  *NM State I assume would stay FBS*

                  Olympic Sports

                  West
                  Azusa Pacific University (Azusa, CA)
                  California Baptist (Riverside, CA)
                  Central Washington University (Ellensburg, WA)
                  Grand Canyon University (Phoenix, AZ)
                  New Mexico State University (Las Cruces, NM)
                  Seattle University (Seattle, WA)
                  Utah Valley University (Orem, UT)

                  East
                  Angelo State University (San Angelo, TX)
                  University of Missouri-Kansas City (Kansas City, MO)
                  Tarleton State University (Stephenville, TX)
                  Texas A&M University Commerce (Commerce, TX)
                  Texas A&M University Kingsville (Kingsville, TX)
                  UT Rio Grande Valley (Edinburg, TX)
                  West Texas A&M University (Canyon, TX)
                  Sounds like a great plan to salvage the current wacky WAC! I think it is a great idea! I wonder if the current WAC commissioner & the LSC, GNAC commissioners have seen this recommendation as well. It would be interesting to see what their comments would be.

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                  • #54
                    Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

                    Originally posted by WT_ALUM08 View Post
                    I think a revamped WAC could be interesting. Here is a possible scenario with the GNAC collapsing and the LSC schools contemplating a move:

                    Angelo State University (San Angelo, TX)
                    Azusa Pacific University (Azusa, CA)
                    California Baptist (Riverside, CA)
                    Central Washington University (Ellensburg, WA)
                    Grand Canyon University (Phoenix, AZ)
                    University of Missouri-Kansas City (Kansas City, MO)
                    New Mexico State University (Las Cruces, NM)
                    Seattle University (Seattle, WA)
                    Tarleton State University (Stephenville, TX)
                    Texas A&M University Commerce (Commerce, TX)
                    Texas A&M University Kingsville (Kingsville, TX)
                    UT Rio Grande Valley (Edinburg, TX)
                    Utah Valley University (Orem, UT)
                    West Texas A&M University (Canyon, TX)

                    Football
                    Angelo State
                    Azusa Pacific
                    Central Washington
                    Tarleton State
                    Texas A&M Commerce
                    Texas A&M Kingsville
                    West Texas A&M
                    *NM State I assume would stay FBS*

                    Olympic Sports

                    West
                    Azusa Pacific University (Azusa, CA)
                    California Baptist (Riverside, CA)
                    Central Washington University (Ellensburg, WA)
                    Grand Canyon University (Phoenix, AZ)
                    New Mexico State University (Las Cruces, NM)
                    Seattle University (Seattle, WA)
                    Utah Valley University (Orem, UT)

                    East
                    Angelo State University (San Angelo, TX)
                    University of Missouri-Kansas City (Kansas City, MO)
                    Tarleton State University (Stephenville, TX)
                    Texas A&M University Commerce (Commerce, TX)
                    Texas A&M University Kingsville (Kingsville, TX)
                    UT Rio Grande Valley (Edinburg, TX)
                    West Texas A&M University (Canyon, TX)
                    How many of the D2 schools could come up with the budget to move to D1?

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                    • #55
                      Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

                      Originally posted by ETSU_LION View Post
                      ...

                      Purdue was 7-6 last year.

                      Perhaps you meant just in conference play? In which case 4-5 is still a really good team...
                      Correct. I should have stated Conference champion possibility playing in the MAC. Or at least state champion in Indiana. The Fighting Irish are not on the Broilermakers non conference schedule for a few years anyway.

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                      • #56
                        Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

                        Originally posted by AngeloFan View Post
                        They must be selling a lot of cheap whiskey up in the Panhandle. This reads like the musings of a drunk buffalo.
                        If Lake Meredith water is used in the Distillery process, it is probably really bad tasting.

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                        • #57
                          Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

                          Originally posted by catatonic View Post
                          How many of the D2 schools could come up with the budget to move to D1?
                          It aint happening in Commerce.

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                          • #58
                            Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

                            Originally posted by catatonic View Post
                            How many of the D2 schools could come up with the budget to move to D1?
                            The WT AD told me about 5 years ago, that to compete at the top tier of the Southland, a minimum budget of $14M to $15M would be necessary. That was 5 years ago. I imagine you'd need about $18M today to compete for championships in all sports. WT's budget will be bumping on $11M by 2019. Could WT make the jump financially to a $16M-$18M budget? Not till FB starts winning again. Even then, WT would be at the mercy of the very fickle Amarillo fan base and better than lukewarm but not fantastic business community support. I'd hate to hang my hat on them. If WT hits 15,000 students by 2024 or so, it might be more feasible.

                            What other LSC schools could pony up a $15M or better budget? If any fans have that kind of info or ideas about it, please post it on here.

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                            • #59
                              Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

                              Originally posted by BuffaloChip View Post
                              The WT AD told me about 5 years ago, that to compete at the top tier of the Southland, a minimum budget of $14M to $15M would be necessary. That was 5 years ago. I imagine you'd need about $18M today to compete for championships in all sports. WT's budget will be bumping on $11M by 2019. Could WT make the jump financially to a $16M-$18M budget? Not till FB starts winning again. Even then, WT would be at the mercy of the very fickle Amarillo fan base and better than lukewarm but not fantastic business community support. I'd hate to hang my hat on them. If WT hits 15,000 students by 2024 or so, it might be more feasible.

                              What other LSC schools could pony up a $15M or better budget? If any fans have that kind of info or ideas about it, please post it on here.
                              You are right on the money....Sam Houston spent over 18 million last year. SFA went over the 17 million mark. Central Arkansas squeaked by on 13.5 million. Top FCS schools like North Dakota State spend about 10 million more than Southland school.

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                              • #60
                                Re: UT Tyler moving to D2 and LSC

                                Originally posted by BuffaloChip View Post
                                The WT AD told me about 5 years ago, that to compete at the top tier of the Southland, a minimum budget of $14M to $15M would be necessary. That was 5 years ago. I imagine you'd need about $18M today to compete for championships in all sports. WT's budget will be bumping on $11M by 2019. Could WT make the jump financially to a $16M-$18M budget? Not till FB starts winning again. Even then, WT would be at the mercy of the very fickle Amarillo fan base and better than lukewarm but not fantastic business community support. I'd hate to hang my hat on them. If WT hits 15,000 students by 2024 or so, it might be more feasible.

                                What other LSC schools could pony up a $15M or better budget? If any fans have that kind of info or ideas about it, please post it on here.
                                This has been posted before but here is the study Tarleton did for it’s possible move up. Shows finial numbers compared to the Southland schools. The report was done in 2014.

                                https://www.tarleton.edu/division1/d...ulting2014.pdf

                                https://www.tarleton.edu/division1/d...ed09-05-14.pdf

                                The first link is the executive summary and the second is the full report.

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