? So you don't think a city like Dallas can survive without oil revenues? That is such a tiny drop in the bucket here.
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Originally posted by LionFan View Post
? So you don't think a city like Dallas can survive without oil revenues? That is such a tiny drop in the bucket here.
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I think you're drastically overestimating the impact of oil money on large cities. I literally don't know a single person in Dallas employed in any way in the oil industry.
In fact, I'd think if it's going to effect anyone, it's the small towns out in west texas (for example) that thrive on it . The oil industry isn't even a blip on the radar in big cities.
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Originally posted by LionFan View PostI think you're drastically overestimating the impact of oil money on large cities. I literally don't know a single person in Dallas employed in any way in the oil industry.
In fact, I'd think if it's going to effect anyone, it's the small towns out in west texas (for example) that thrive on it . The oil industry isn't even a blip on the radar in big cities.
However, a cities main revenue sources are sales tax and property tax.
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In California, they've effectively destroyed any third party or independent options. In addition to the gerrymandered districts, the state changed the state election laws. Now, only the top two primary vote recipients are eligible to be on the statewide ballot.
While this doesn't remove third party or independent candidates from the presidential part of the ballot in California, it serves to diminish voter turnout. Moreover, there are fewer "protest" votes. If a party has multiple candidates, then they will effectively cancel one another out.
In 2016, there was an election for the open seat for the U.S. Senate. There were actually two Democrats on the ballot -- primarily because the DNC and state party threw their support behind one candidate (Kamala Harris). The dozen or so Republicans canceled one another's votes. This allowed Loretta Sanchez (another Democrat) to get the only other spot on the Senate part of the ballot.
This drove down voter turnout considerably. It was the only state in which the Democratic Party's nominee (Hillary Clinton) received more votes than President Obama did just four years earlier. Democrats pushed a dozen propositions onto the ballot. Republicans didn't have a single statewide initiative or statewide candidate (other than Donald Trump). Consequently, turnout for Republicans and all third party (or no party) candidates was at a historically low rate.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out in November 2020. For one, there is no popular Libertarian on the presidential ballot (and former Republican governor turned Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson received more than 4.5 Million votes in 2016). However, I think that voter enthusiasm is much, MUCH lower than it was four years ago.
I live in the San Francisco Bay Area. I've only seen one or two Biden yard signs and just one Biden bumper sticker over the last year. I've seen many more stickers for Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders and even President Trump. In fact, there were far more Hillary Clinton bumper stickers and signs four years ago. And, of course, the Obama stickers and signs were everywhere in 2012.
As for the differences between California and Texas: The differences aren't just in regard to taxation or social issues. There is a perpetual "agitation" here.
One year, some districts are urged by activists to cancel football for "violence." The next year, they are encouraged to cancel football for "racism" (because some groups think that minorities are "used" for athleticism to the profit of districts and others think that minorities are discriminated against because there aren't enough position slots in that district). Another year, they want to cancel football because or how "racist" sport inclusion is (and how it supposedly discourages academic progress). This year, it is both COVID-19 and "offensive" mascots.
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Originally posted by ccchhhrrriiisss View Post
In California, they've effectively destroyed any third party or independent options. In addition to the gerrymandered districts, the state changed the state election laws. Now, only the top two primary vote recipients are eligible to be on the statewide ballot.
While this doesn't remove third party or independent candidates from the presidential part of the ballot in California, it serves to diminish voter turnout. Moreover, there are fewer "protest" votes. If a party has multiple candidates, then they will effectively cancel one another out.
In 2016, there was an election for the open seat for the U.S. Senate. There were actually two Democrats on the ballot -- primarily because the DNC and state party threw their support behind one candidate (Kamala Harris). The dozen or so Republicans canceled one another's votes. This allowed Loretta Sanchez (another Democrat) to get the only other spot on the Senate part of the ballot.
This drove down voter turnout considerably. It was the only state in which the Democratic Party's nominee (Hillary Clinton) received more votes than President Obama did just four years earlier. Democrats pushed a dozen propositions onto the ballot. Republicans didn't have a single statewide initiative or statewide candidate (other than Donald Trump). Consequently, turnout for Republicans and all third party (or no party) candidates was at a historically low rate.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out in November 2020. For one, there is no popular Libertarian on the presidential ballot (and former Republican governor turned Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson received more than 4.5 Million votes in 2016). However, I think that voter enthusiasm is much, MUCH lower than it was four years ago.
I live in the San Francisco Bay Area. I've only seen one or two Biden yard signs and just one Biden bumper sticker over the last year. I've seen many more stickers for Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders and even President Trump. In fact, there were far more Hillary Clinton bumper stickers and signs four years ago. And, of course, the Obama stickers and signs were everywhere in 2012.
As for the differences between California and Texas: The differences aren't just in regard to taxation or social issues. There is a perpetual "agitation" here.
One year, some districts are urged by activists to cancel football for "violence." The next year, they are encouraged to cancel football for "racism" (because some groups think that minorities are "used" for athleticism to the profit of districts and others think that minorities are discriminated against because there aren't enough position slots in that district). Another year, they want to cancel football because or how "racist" sport inclusion is (and how it supposedly discourages academic progress). This year, it is both COVID-19 and "offensive" mascots.
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Originally posted by ccchhhrrriiisss View Post
In California, they've effectively destroyed any third party or independent options. In addition to the gerrymandered districts, the state changed the state election laws. Now, only the top two primary vote recipients are eligible to be on the statewide ballot.
While this doesn't remove third party or independent candidates from the presidential part of the ballot in California, it serves to diminish voter turnout. Moreover, there are fewer "protest" votes. If a party has multiple candidates, then they will effectively cancel one another out.
In 2016, there was an election for the open seat for the U.S. Senate. There were actually two Democrats on the ballot -- primarily because the DNC and state party threw their support behind one candidate (Kamala Harris). The dozen or so Republicans canceled one another's votes. This allowed Loretta Sanchez (another Democrat) to get the only other spot on the Senate part of the ballot.
This drove down voter turnout considerably. It was the only state in which the Democratic Party's nominee (Hillary Clinton) received more votes than President Obama did just four years earlier. Democrats pushed a dozen propositions onto the ballot. Republicans didn't have a single statewide initiative or statewide candidate (other than Donald Trump). Consequently, turnout for Republicans and all third party (or no party) candidates was at a historically low rate.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out in November 2020. For one, there is no popular Libertarian on the presidential ballot (and former Republican governor turned Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson received more than 4.5 Million votes in 2016). However, I think that voter enthusiasm is much, MUCH lower than it was four years ago.
I live in the San Francisco Bay Area. I've only seen one or two Biden yard signs and just one Biden bumper sticker over the last year. I've seen many more stickers for Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders and even President Trump. In fact, there were far more Hillary Clinton bumper stickers and signs four years ago. And, of course, the Obama stickers and signs were everywhere in 2012.
As for the differences between California and Texas: The differences aren't just in regard to taxation or social issues. There is a perpetual "agitation" here.
One year, some districts are urged by activists to cancel football for "violence." The next year, they are encouraged to cancel football for "racism" (because some groups think that minorities are "used" for athleticism to the profit of districts and others think that minorities are discriminated against because there aren't enough position slots in that district). Another year, they want to cancel football because or how "racist" sport inclusion is (and how it supposedly discourages academic progress). This year, it is both COVID-19 and "offensive" mascots.
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