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    What does the Southland Conference's exodus mean for other conferences? Do they try to poach other teams from D-I conferences, stand pat with six football members, or go after D-II schools?
    Go Bronchos!

  • #2
    Originally posted by UCObluejay View Post
    What does the Southland Conference's exodus mean for other conferences? Do they try to poach other teams from D-I conferences, stand pat with six football members, or go after D-II schools?
    Currently and quietly they are pursuing TAMUC and West Fla. Southland Commissioner is not a strong leader and dead broke Louisiana schools are very much a deterrent for anyone!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by UCObluejay View Post
      What does the Southland Conference's exodus mean for other conferences? Do they try to poach other teams from D-I conferences, stand pat with six football members, or go after D-II schools?
      My feeling is both. They possibly go after Prairie View A&M or others from the SWAC and get some of the upper tier LSC schools (Commerce, WT, UTPB).

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Buffalo/Islander Alum View Post

        My feeling is both. They possibly go after Prairie View A&M or others from the SWAC and get some of the upper tier LSC schools (Commerce, WT, UTPB).
        My only hope is that TAMU Commerce didn't join with the expectation of others joining the Southland.

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        • #5
          Nope. This was solely a decision based on us. There's still other discussions going on, but whether or not they come to fruition wasn't part of it.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by LionFan View Post
            Nope. This was solely a decision based on us. There's still other discussions going on, but whether or not they come to fruition wasn't part of it.
            I understand the desire to play D1, but I don’t know that moving from the LSC, and away from traditional geographic rivalries, to an obscure “D1” conference, is any sort of promotion. Do Commerce fans really prefer to play Nickels State, McNeese, and IWU over Angelo, Midwestern, and West Texas?

            Hard to figure this one. I think Commerce got caught up in the aura of being D1, and I’m guessing they don’t like where they land when they get there. If it had been an invitation to the WAC, with other Texas schools, I could see that as a sound decision.

            But it could be that Commerce is looking at the southland as a purely interim stop, and await an invite from another league.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Herb Street View Post

              I understand the desire to play D1, but I don’t know that moving from the LSC, and away from traditional geographic rivalries, to an obscure “D1” conference, is any sort of promotion. Do Commerce fans really prefer to play Nickels State, McNeese, and IWU over Angelo, Midwestern, and West Texas?

              Hard to figure this one. I think Commerce got caught up in the aura of being D1, and I’m guessing they don’t like where they land when they get there. If it had been an invitation to the WAC, with other Texas schools, I could see that as a sound decision.

              But it could be that Commerce is looking at the southland as a purely interim stop, and await an invite from another league.
              It's always going to be the next big thing...

              UTSA was on cloud 9 leaving the Southland for their forever home in Conference USA. Now that UTSA cracked the Top 25 C-USA is inferior and they are now moving to the American Athletic Conference to fill in those departures. Some of their fan base is stoked because that conference is a "stepping stone" for a power 5 conference invite. LOL.

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              • #8
                Since we are all speculating. I'll throw fuel on the TAMU-C fire.

                Maybe they know something about the long term future of the LSC and don't want to be the last ones left before the lights get turned out?
                Maybe the overlords in the T&M system are pushing this on them?
                Maybe they truly want to expand their reach and offer more student athletes a chance to compete at a higher level?
                Maybe they (as Herb says) have another destination planned after the SC?

                The truth is they have made the move. That's all we know for sure.
                Hopefully they set it up in recruiting, facilities, and coaching across the board.
                Time will tell.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Buffalo/Islander Alum View Post

                  My feeling is both. They possibly go after Prairie View A&M or others from the SWAC and get some of the upper tier LSC schools (Commerce, WT, UTPB).
                  That is downright silly to call UTPB an upper tier LSC school. They beat three cream puffs and then get their butts whooped last weekend. What I saw last weekend was the same old bunch of fat linemen and mediocre skill players they have been putting on the field for years. If they played WT 50 times, WT would win 49.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by UCObluejay View Post
                    What does the Southland Conference's exodus mean for other conferences? Do they try to poach other teams from D-I conferences, stand pat with six football members, or go after D-II schools?
                    Speaking of moving up- what does UCO plan to do? Or are the D2 Oklahoma teams actually going to be forced into one conference? I would think that would be unlikely.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Herb Street View Post

                      I understand the desire to play D1, but I don’t know that moving from the LSC, and away from traditional geographic rivalries, to an obscure “D1” conference, is any sort of promotion. Do Commerce fans really prefer to play Nickels State, McNeese, and IWU over Angelo, Midwestern, and West Texas?

                      Hard to figure this one. I think Commerce got caught up in the aura of being D1, and I’m guessing they don’t like where they land when they get there. If it had been an invitation to the WAC, with other Texas schools, I could see that as a sound decision.

                      But it could be that Commerce is looking at the southland as a purely interim stop, and await an invite from another league.
                      I actually think you make some valid points. Commerce probably did reach out to the WAC to see if there was any interest. It seems that ship has sailed as far as D2 move ups which left only the Southland as an option.

                      So, my guess is that TAMUC will not be happy for very long if the SC is the same now when they clear transition.
                      Last edited by Techster88; 10-19-2021, 05:42 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by nobody special View Post
                        Since we are all speculating. I'll throw fuel on the TAMU-C fire.

                        Maybe they know something about the long term future of the LSC and don't want to be the last ones left before the lights get turned out?
                        Maybe the overlords in the T&M system are pushing this on them?
                        Maybe they truly want to expand their reach and offer more student athletes a chance to compete at a higher level?
                        Maybe they (as Herb says) have another destination planned after the SC?

                        The truth is they have made the move. That's all we know for sure.
                        Hopefully they set it up in recruiting, facilities, and coaching across the board.
                        Time will tell.
                        The overlords in Collie Station have been very instrumental in positioning every athletic program in their system for future growth except TAMUK. It’s going to be very interesting to see what will become of the LSC within the next five years and where TAMUK goes. The leadership in Kingsville has been MIA when it comes to the football program the last decade.

                        Speaking of UTPB, you can bet their overlords in Austin will see that they take the next step. It might not be in the immediate time frame, but sometime in the next decade they will take it. Pay attention to what’s going on at UTRGV with them starting football and a few other sports. The overlords in Austin have been real supportive of their efforts. And speaking of that program, that has a chance to do great harm to TAMUK and the future of that program if the “leadership” in Kingsville doesn’t stop whistling past the graved yard.
                        Last edited by LSC Fan; 10-19-2021, 05:51 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by laker View Post

                          Speaking of moving up- what does UCO plan to do? Or are the D2 Oklahoma teams actually going to be forced into one conference? I would think that would be unlikely.
                          I don't really know. The new(ish) president is very budget consious. I doubt UCO would move up but I don't really know. If I had to bet my next check on where UCO would be in five or ten years I would say MIAA. (This is assuming college sports as we know it is around in any form.) If any non D-I team from Oklahoma move up it would be Oklahoma City University, they are NAIA now, but were the standard bearer for the state in basketball for years and made several NCAA Tournaments.

                          The state legislature or governor really couldn't care less about where any college has their sports. They are more concerned about the OSSAA than anything. OU and OSU aren't tied at the hip. Why would any of the state schools be?
                          Go Bronchos!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Techster88 View Post

                            I actually think you make some valid points. Commerce probably did reach out to the WAC to see if there was any interest. It seems that ship has sailed as far as D2 move ups which left only the Southland as an option.

                            So, my guess is that TAMUC will not be happy for very long if the SC is the same now when they clear transition.
                            FYI - they use SLC

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by AngeloFan View Post

                              That is downright silly to call UTPB an upper tier LSC school. They beat three cream puffs and then get their butts whooped last weekend. What I saw last weekend was the same old bunch of fat linemen and mediocre skill players they have been putting on the field for years. If they played WT 50 times, WT would win 49.
                              Not so much their actual football team but their campus and facilities as a whole.

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