WT Football

[cwfenn]

Didn’t know if any WT fans (or PB fans next week) were at all interested in going to Western Colorado for their games, but the university’s football stadium is in the middle of major construction and the football team can’t use it. They have to play on a soccer field and are limiting paid attendance to 500 people, so it might be best to stay home if anyone had ideas about making the trip:

https://gomountaineers.com/news/2023...y-details.aspx

[ASUPops]

Lol.
You were probably looking at it while they were changing it.

DING, DING, DING....WE HAVE A WINNER.

[Predatory Primates]

I realize that.

There were more freshman on the roster a few days ago, approximately 10 more.

Lol.
You were probably looking at it while they were changing it.

[ASUPops]

I realize that.

There were more freshman on the roster a few days ago, approximately 10 more.

Probably an error.

[AngeloFan]

RS & RSF two different things.

Angelo signed 27 freshman on national signing day. Looks like 26 made the roster.

This is about the same # they sign every year as far back as I can remember.

The roster is never final until classes begin. A few freshmen come to camp and decide collage FB is not for them.

Wait till next week and things should be a lot clearer.

[WT_TKW]

Semi-OT, ex pro wrestler and ex WT football player Terry Funk died yesterday age 79:

https://sports.yahoo.com/terry-funk-...204608396.html

I grew up watching the Funks. Dory Jr. is still around.

There was talk of them starting their own school in Umbarger, and calling it Funk U.

[WT_TKW]

RS & RSF two different things.

Angelo signed 27 freshman on national signing day. Looks like 26 made the roster.

This is about the same # they sign every year as far back as I can remember.

I realize that.

There were more freshman on the roster a few days ago, approximately 10 more.

[cwfenn]

Semi-OT, ex pro wrestler and ex WT football player Terry Funk died yesterday age 79:

https://sports.yahoo.com/terry-funk-...204608396.html

[ASUPops]

It's 26 today + 2 RSF. It might be different tomorrow. https://angelosports.com/sports/foot...ter?sort=class

RS & RSF two different things.

Angelo signed 27 freshman on national signing day. Looks like 26 made the roster.

This is about the same # they sign every year as far back as I can remember.

[WT_TKW]

Show me

https://angelosports.com/sports/football/roster

Yup, then sh!t on the other 48 kids that were not "excellent".

It's 26 today + 2 RSF. It might be different tomorrow. https://angelosports.com/sports/foot...ter?sort=class

[Buffalo/Islander Alum]

That's TERRIBLE!!!! Wendler needs to go!!!!

If Wendler were to "go" it would have been when he faced intense heat over the drag show, no confidence vote by the faculty, and basically turning away certain types of freshman students.

It also shows where WT ranks on the food chain of A&M university schools that there is "chaos" but ....eh.....

Let's hope Lynn has success sooner than later.

[ASUPops]

I counted 36 yesterday on the ASU website (roster). None of them were redshirt freshmen.

I have no idea how many is "normal" for an LSC team. I thought 58 was high for WT but it's a new regime and so he's hoping for some good surprises. Carthel found some excellent players that way.

I expected Angelo to have way fewer freshman based on their recent successes.

Show me

https://angelosports.com/sports/football/roster

Yup, then sh!t on the other 48 kids that were not "excellent".

[ASUPops]

Pops, behind the scenes at WT: the athletic department is being told (by the administration) to recruit big classes. Why? Enrollment and the profit motive. WT gives out 134 full rides. Football has 154 kids enrolled. Track and field has 110. Every kid above the 134 mark brings $22,000 a year to WT (if they live on campus and eat at the dining halls). This does not count the enrollment that comes from the cheer squad, athletic training, marching band, or other auxiliary students (like audio-visual-communications). Unfortunately, WT gets little back in return from the profits they engender. Whether from enrollment, ticket sales, concessions, etc., WT athletics is continually penalized by the chief financial officer and other bureaucratic bums who feitcely protect their little fiefdoms. With athletics under the current administration it's "bring us students and cut expenses."

It's a cancer that can only be changed with a strong President who supports athletics.

That's TERRIBLE!!!! Wendler needs to go!!!!

[WT_TKW]

Angelo signed 27 Freshman. Where do you see 40?

I saw a report yesterday that stated 47%-68% retention rate. Not sure how accurate those #'s are.

IMO. Signing a big freshman class is playing the odds. Maybe you will get a few good ones and cut the bad. Back in Carthel's time that worked (His M.O.) because it was hard for a player to transfer. But now, I am concerned that the few good players will jump ship via portal, and then what are you left with?

Same can happen if you sign 25. BUT, with a lower #, the philosophy is the GOOD players feel wanted and that can build loyalty.

I never have liked big freshman signing classes. I thinks it's more of an ego thing for the HC.

If what you say is true and Angelo signed 40 incoming freshman, I would be concerned, becausecthst goes agsinst the nationally recognized program Girsch built.

I counted 36 yesterday on the ASU website (roster). None of them were redshirt freshmen.

I have no idea how many is "normal" for an LSC team. I thought 58 was high for WT but it's a new regime and so he's hoping for some good surprises. Carthel found some excellent players that way.

I expected Angelo to have way fewer freshman based on their recent successes.

[BuffaloChip]

Angelo signed 27 Freshman. Where do you see 40?

I saw a report yesterday that stated 47%-68% retention rate. Not sure how accurate those #'s are.

IMO. Signing a big freshman class is playing the odds. Maybe you will get a few good ones and cut the bad. Back in Csrthels time that worked (His M.O.) because it was hard for a player to transfer. But now, I am concerned that the few good players will jump ship via portal, and then what are you left with?

Same can happen if you sign 25. BUT, with a lower #, the philosophy is the GOOD players feel wanted and that can build loyalty.
big classes
I never have liked big freshman signing classes. I thinks it's more of an ego thing for the HC.

If what you say is true and Angelo signed 40 incoming freshman, I would be concerned, becausecthst goes agsinst the nationally recognized program Girsch built.

Pops, behind the scenes at WT: the athletic department is being told (by the administration) to recruit big classes. Why? Enrollment and the profit motive. WT gives out 134 full rides. Football has 154 kids enrolled. Track and field has 110. Every kid above the 134 mark brings $22,000 a year to WT (if they live on campus and eat at the dining halls). This does not count the enrollment that comes from the cheer squad, athletic training, marching band, or other auxiliary students (like audio-visual-communications). Unfortunately, WT gets little back in return from the profits they engender. Whether from enrollment, ticket sales, concessions, etc., WT athletics is continually penalized by the chief financial officer and other bureaucratic bums who feitcely protect their little fiefdoms. With athletics under the current administration it's "bring us students and cut expenses."

It's a cancer that can only be changed with a strong President who supports athletics. I'm pretty confident of this info. My source is an ex-administrator who was well placed.

University politics might be more fierce than anything in the corporate field or real world politics. I can only imagine what it's like to work at the upper echelons in a university.