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  • BuffaloChip
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    Originally posted by Rockofwesties View Post
    It sure did not take Carthel long to build a winning program.
    That's like Republicans talking today about Ronald Reagan. Irrelevant. Reagan's dead and Carthel ain't coming back. Move on.

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  • Predatory Primates
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    Originally posted by WT_TKW View Post

    UTPB seems to be doing a lot better than WT in a similar situation.
    That's true. Wright rebuilt fast at Pitt, too. I think the portal can make it both easier and harder to do. It's easier to fill holes quickly, but also makes it so you have to do it a lot more often.

    I think a lot of it also depends how rigidly the staff adheres to a certain system, how far away from the previous system theirs is, and how bad off the team was to begin with.


    The WT coach is definitely a system guy, imo. I think he'll need a full 4 years to make them any good.

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  • Rockofwesties
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    This message board needs an enema!

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  • ASUPops
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    Originally posted by WT_TKW View Post

    UTPB seems to be doing a lot better than WT in a similar situation.
    Agreed.

    Kris McCullough's recruiting style/tactics remind me a bit of Colby Carthel's. Enough said.

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  • WT_TKW
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    Originally posted by Predatory Primates View Post

    Competition to get recruits through the door has increased a ton and retention is an entirely different animal than it was back then.
    UTPB seems to be doing a lot better than WT in a similar situation.

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  • Roaming Buff
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    Originally posted by Predatory Primates View Post

    Competition to get recruits through the door has increased a ton and retention is an entirely different animal than it was back then.
    Good points

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  • Predatory Primates
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    Originally posted by WT_TKW View Post

    Yes, Don went 10-2 in his first year after years of sub .500 football from previous coaches.
    Competition to get recruits through the door has increased a ton and retention is an entirely different animal than it was back then.

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  • SPWOU
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    Originally posted by TAMUK09 View Post

    I know it's tough, but be patient. It can take a second season to see the changes really take effect. And when there has been a prolonged drought, it can take even longer. You have to completely change the whole culture of the program, break even more bad habits and prove even more people wrong. In Kingsville's case the program pretty much had to learn to win again from scratch, especially for conference games.

    WT has been competitive. 2 of the loses were only be a point. WT only lost by one touchdown in Kingsville which is an improvement over last year when they lost by 14 in Canyon.

    Next year should be a good one for WT.
    I agree, they also have a good young QB, which will help as long as he sticks around.

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  • WT_TKW
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    Originally posted by Rockofwesties View Post
    It sure did not take Carthel long to build a winning program.
    Yes, Don went 10-2 in his first year after years of sub .500 football from previous coaches.

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  • Predatory Primates
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    He definitely seems to be a system guy, and not a super flexible win with what you have guy.

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  • Buffalo/Islander Alum
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    Every coach including Lynn gets a pass unless he went 0-10 and got blown out every game.

    He needs time to get his full team to buy into his system and cycle out all the Hughes leftovers.

    Once WT wins that "big game" against a contender then WT should be off to the races after that.

    I am a little disappointed that the defense has appeared to regress since the first two games but there will be fluctuations throughout the year.

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  • loper legionnaire
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    Originally posted by Great White Buffalo View Post
    I looked at the rest of the schedule, don't think Wt will have as many wins as last year.
    This rebuild may take longer than planned. I like the direction Wt is going and the coaching staff.
    Just slow progress.
    If Lynn can replicate what he did in Kearney, you guys will be just fine. I'm sure you know this but it's worth repeating, he took one of the worst programs in the conference and built a playoff team in 5 years.

    Before Lynn, UNK's 5 years in the MIAA went like this: 3-8, 3-8, 3-8, 0-11, 1-10. It was a slow but consistent rise after Lynn took over as he got his system and players in place. He went 3-8, 5-6, 7-5 (Bowl win vs Winona), 2-0 (COVID year), 10-3 (Playoff win @ Western Colorado) & 8-3.

    I'm sure he'll have you guys in a good place before long.

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  • TAMUK09
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    Originally posted by WT_TKW View Post

    That’s pretty scary. The McBroom curse on football continues.

    I thought anyone could improve on what Hughes did. Though I think there are signs of improvement, I think there should be more of them.
    I know it's tough, but be patient. It can take a second season to see the changes really take effect. And when there has been a prolonged drought, it can take even longer. You have to completely change the whole culture of the program, break even more bad habits and prove even more people wrong. In Kingsville's case the program pretty much had to learn to win again from scratch, especially for conference games.

    WT has been competitive. 2 of the loses were only be a point. WT only lost by one touchdown in Kingsville which is an improvement over last year when they lost by 14 in Canyon.

    Next year should be a good one for WT.

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  • Rockofwesties
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    It sure did not take Carthel long to build a winning program.

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  • WT_TKW
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    Originally posted by Great White Buffalo View Post
    I looked at the rest of the schedule, don't think Wt will have as many wins as last year.
    This rebuild may take longer than planned. I like the direction Wt is going and the coaching staff.
    Just slow progress.
    That’s pretty scary. The McBroom curse on football continues.

    I thought anyone could improve on what Hughes did. Though I think there are signs of improvement, I think there should be more of them.

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