WT Football

[ASUPops]

I don't have the time to give you full history lessons, but here's the synopsis.

Pitt put the MIAA on the map by coming in and competing nationally back when the conference was terrible. They were in the hunt but came up a little short a bunch of times.. Been to 4 ncs and won 2. Been knocked out of the playoffs by the NC at least 6 times thanks to regionality with Pitt giving the champ their best game of the PLAYOFF several of those times. But that was a long time ago, and Pitt is just coming off of a decade of being godawful.

Then NW came along and took D2 football success to levels it has never been before or since. At the same time, the rest of the conference got tired of sucking and spent the cash to at least try to compete.

Don't need history lesson.😂😂😂

[TAMUK09]

Rumors WT and Midwestern to the MIAA in 2025, plus a few GAC schools. Any truth or just hogwash?

I sure hope this isn't try. I know that WT has struggled a lot recently and Midwestern State has struggled some as well, but it would be awful for the LSC if they left. The LSC has already lost too many good teams over the last dozen years or so with Abilene Christian, Tarleton, and Texas A&M - Commerce jumping to FCS. And you can't count on just getting Texas D3 and NAIA schools to keep replacing teams that leave the conference. The better ones might be happy where they are and the others would take a decade before they could be counted on to consistently win games in conference. Y'all saw what UTPB did to Texas College this year. And Sul Ross wasn't able to beat WNMU or ENMU. This strategy would just continue to weaken the conference.
And I also don't get the appeal or benefits of being in a 25 team conference with multiple divisions. If you are only going to play another team every 6 or 8 years, as another poster commented, what exactly is the point of being in the same conference as them. Just schedule them in non-conference. And if you are one of 25 schools, you are going to have almost no say in how the conference is run. And the arguement that one big conference is cheaper on the schools because of less conference overhead won't really pan out in the long run. Economies of scale has its limits. The bigger conference will have to add more staff and levels of bureaucracy to handle everything. The commissioner will push for a much larger salary because of the big wonderful conference that he or she is running so we'll. In the end the cost savings won't materialize.

[Predatory Primates]

Not apples to apples.

No, but your big complaint was whiny parents costing teams players. I see that transcending levels.

[Predatory Primates]

I mean other than powerhouse NWMS and 2 NC in Pitt history, no one else in MIAA has done anything. NWMS put the MIAA on the map.

I don't have the time to give you full history lessons, but here's the synopsis.

Pitt put the MIAA on the map by coming in and competing nationally back when the conference was terrible. They were in the hunt but came up a little short a bunch of times.. Been to 4 ncs and won 2. Been knocked out of the playoffs by the NC at least 6 times thanks to regionality with Pitt giving the champ their best game of the PLAYOFF several of those times. But that was a long time ago, and Pitt is just coming off of a decade of being godawful.

Then NW came along and took D2 football success to levels it has never been before or since. At the same time, the rest of the conference got tired of sucking and spent the cash to at least try to compete.

[ASUPops]

In football, I am not sure WT has the institutional commitment to succeed in the MIAA, let alone D1 under the current regime.

Then again, I see mediocre football schools going D1 all the time, as football is an afterthought for a lot of D1aa schools. I'm sure it must make financial sense for them with potential bball money and paycheck games in several sports.

I mean other than powerhouse NWMS and 2 NC in Pitt history, no one else in MIAA has done anything. NWMS put the MIAA on the map.

[ASUPops]

I have heard a bunch of coaches talk about how it's more of an individual thing. Some kids want to be away from home for school while others want to stay close to family. This would create an odd situation because you are asking kids who stayed close to home to travel for games.

Then again, it's not that odd. I mean if those kids went to UT or TX state, their folks wouldn't be making nearly as many games, and I doubt they are losing many recruits because of it.

Not apples to apples.

[Predatory Primates]

I would much prefer a move to D1 than MIAA!!!

The MIAA is great, but not the right move for WT.

In football, I am not sure WT has the institutional commitment to succeed in the MIAA, let alone D1 under the current regime.

Then again, I see mediocre football schools going D1 all the time, as football is an afterthought for a lot of D1aa schools. I'm sure it must make financial sense for them with potential bball money and paycheck games in several sports.

[Predatory Primates]

Hogwash. You will lose MANY Texas recruits. Their parents won't be able to travel to Nebraska and Missouri every other week. That's a LONG DRIVE to most away games for parents/family of players...hell Kearney is 10 hours just from dallas. What about recruits from Houston, San Antonio, Odessa? They going to drive 12-14 each way??? NOPE!

WT would take years to build, if ever, because they WOULD lose top recruits due to family travel to games.

I have heard a bunch of coaches talk about how it's more of an individual thing. Some kids want to be away from home for school while others want to stay close to family. This would create an odd situation because you are asking kids who stayed close to home to travel for games.

Then again, it's not that odd. I mean if those kids went to UT or TX state, their folks wouldn't be making nearly as many games, and I doubt they are losing many recruits because of it.

[Buffalo/Islander Alum]

I would much prefer a move to D1 than MIAA!!!

The MIAA is great, but not the right move for WT.

Agree on both points.

The MIAA is a stronger conference in most sports.

I would rather see the LSC try to get stronger and poach away strong teams from Texas D3/NAIA teams or borderline struggling FCS teams.

[ASUPops]

Just move up to D1 already and join the Southland.

At least with that move the travel is the same but it's inside Texas (which most of the recruits are coming from anyway) and Louisiana.

I would much prefer a move to D1 than MIAA!!!

The MIAA is great, but not the right move for WT.

[ASUPops]

Yeah we have all known for some time but we have gotten to accept you anyway.

😂

[Buffalo/Islander Alum]

Hogwash. You will lose MANY Texas recruits. Their parents won't be able to travel to Nebraska and Missouri every other week. That's a LONG DRIVE to most away games for parents/family of players...hell Kearney is 10 hours just from dallas. What about recruits from Houston, San Antonio, Odessa? They going to drive 12-14 each way??? NOPE!

WT would take years to build, if ever, because they WOULD lose top recruits due to family travel to games.

Just move up to D1 already and join the Southland if you are seriously considering the MIAA as an option.

At least with that move the travel is the same but it's inside Texas (which most of the recruits are coming from anyway) and Louisiana.

[Rockofwesties]

I have no clue of the point(s) you are trying to make. Lol.

Yeah we have all known for some time but we have gotten to accept you anyway.

[ASUPops]

It would open Oklahoma City and Kansas City recruiting to WT. Carthel use to get players from Florida and California. If WT is going to get back to actually having NFL potential players again, they need to make a bold move. Wt needs to have a plan and not just constantly being put in the situation of having to react to decisions made by other universities.

I have no clue of the point(s) you are trying to make. Lol.

[Rockofwesties]

Hogwash. You will lose MANY Texas recruits. Their parents won't be able to travel to Nebraska and Missouri every other week. That's a LONG DRIVE to most away games for parents/family of players...hell Kearney is 10 hours just from dallas. What about recruits from Houston, San Antonio, Odessa? They going to drive 12-14 each way??? NOPE!

WT would take years to build, if ever, because they WOULD lose top recruits due to family travel to games.

It would open Oklahoma City and Kansas City recruiting to WT. Carthel use to get players from Florida and California. If WT is going to get back to actually having NFL potential players again, they need to make a bold move. Wt needs to have a plan and not just constantly being put in the situation of having to react to decisions made by other universities.