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  • Originally posted by debergfan View Post

    You wouldn't take UTPB's coach? I'd be surprised if he's coaching D2 in a year or two. Commerce is not walking through FCS.
    No. He’s looking ahead while his sizzle is still there. He moved pretty quickly in year one but is now raising some smoke. Lots of “only rumors” in the air. Not sure on Commerce comment. Don Carthel would get a lot of folks behind the program and I bet he’s got a few years left

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    • Originally posted by Buff90 View Post

      Just picking through what'd be acceptable in the 250 mile net I was casting. He's an alum and the most feared recruiter in D2. Not sure if we could get Carthel but he'd be a boost
      I actually didn't know Faske went to WT...I had Hughes flashbacks there. I think Don Carthel might be semi-retired now too, working for his son.

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      • Originally posted by cwfenn View Post

        I actually didn't know Faske went to WT...I had Hughes flashbacks there. I think Don Carthel might be semi-retired now too, working for his son.
        I went to the SFA website, and Don isn't in the list of coaches or staff. I know he helped out for a long time, including being the head coach for a week when Colby had COVID. Yes, they won that game.

        I hate to say it, but Hughes looks pretty good compared to Lynn, which is tragic.

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        • Originally posted by debergfan View Post

          This is purely speculative, with no insider information.

          There's a new Athletic Director at both WT and UTPB.

          The fanbase at WT is calling for a change.

          UTPB lacks an on-campus stadium and is essentially an expansion college football program. Some have claimed the department overspent by $10 million, but I'm skeptical of that.

          I believe they would target McCullough. What other names would they go after? GVSt is not coming. Unless, you can get a sitting HC, WT is not a learn on the job position.

          He could be tempted by the better facilities, support, and finances at WT. I think he could lead them to compete for a national championship.
          WT's on-campus stadium has done so much for the program. NOT. Football has sucked since the year Carthel was fired, except for a couple of years, and no post season appearances even then. Yes, I know WT had a decent playoff run with Nesbitt clapping from the sidelines the year Carthel was fired, but Don had them ready, You are right about McCullough, he would be much better than Lynn.

          It's WT, WTSU(retro), or WTAMU. If Elon Musk buys the school, then it might be WTX.

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          • Let me just say that there's a whole lot in the WT soup that doesn't have anything to do with coaching or money. You guys that think Lynn can't coach need to look at his past record. There's a LOT more to this - that football is the only sport on campus that doesn't win.

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            • Originally posted by Buff90 View Post

              No. He’s looking ahead while his sizzle is still there. He moved pretty quickly in year one but is now raising some smoke. Lots of “only rumors” in the air. Not sure on Commerce comment. Don Carthel would get a lot of folks behind the program and I bet he’s got a few years left
              I know this is blasphemy in these parts but I think the Carthel train has left the station permanently.

              Colby and Nesbitt were a big part of their recruiting back in the day and Colby has yet to show he has adjusted to the new NIL and portal days on a consistent basis but this year is looking up.

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              • Originally posted by Buffalo/Islander Alum View Post

                I know this is blasphemy in these parts but I think the Carthel train has left the station permanently.

                Colby and Nesbitt were a big part of their recruiting back in the day and Colby has yet to show he has adjusted to the new NIL and portal days on a consistent basis but this year is looking up.
                It’s not blasphemy as you are probably right. It would take a lot to get Don to return.

                McBroom will get Colby straightened out. 🤣🤣🤣

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                • Don Carthel was fired for lying to his supervisor and encouraging one of his student athletes to lie to protect him. It doesn't matter the the original offense was trivial and done in good faith. Lying to your boss will get you fired most places and using your position of authority to get someone else to lie for you will dang sure get you fired almost anywhere.

                  You guys really want him back? Don't you want someone with a little integrity leading your young men?

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                  • Originally posted by Buffalo/Islander Alum View Post

                    I think I had said if he gets to 5 wins then that is improvement even though its below .500 at 5-6.

                    Kingsville and Midwestern should be winnable games for WT to get there.

                    Lose both of those games and you only have proved you found a way to improve enough to beat Eastern New Mexico.

                    If I were Lynn I would be asking the AD to go back to scheduling Adams State or equivalent for the first game of the season to at least get some confidence and momentum going.

                    Its tough to crawl out of 0-2 holes with confidence going into conference play.

                    If Lynn doesnt find a way to get to 7 wins in his third year then it would be reasonable to pull the plug and hire a coach with modern understanding of NIL and portal use.
                    You mean like Angelo State did this season? 😏

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                    • Originally posted by bleacher dweller View Post
                      Don Carthel was fired for lying to his supervisor and encouraging one of his student athletes to lie to protect him.
                      Don is a really, REALLY good guy, with a TON of integrity, AND the above is also true. Remember, personnel files, like medical files, are confidential. Anyone who is fired can go on a public rampage about how bad their former employer treated them (although Don didn't do this to any great extent), but personnel files are confidential. By law, an employer cannot release a personnel file to the public in order to present their side of a controversy.

                      We all have lapses in integrity. We all lie. Unfortunately, it can sometimes really bite you in the butt. I can say this, NO ONE at WT wanted to fire Don Carthel. ZILCHO. He put them in a corner with no way out. My guess is that Don would probably admit that today.

                      It was just a very unfortunate situation. I'll also add that Don would not be winning at WT right now. Things are different. Way different.


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                      • Originally posted by Buff90 View Post

                        No. He’s looking ahead while his sizzle is still there. He moved pretty quickly in year one but is now raising some smoke. Lots of “only rumors” in the air. Not sure on Commerce comment. Don Carthel would get a lot of folks behind the program and I bet he’s got a few years left
                        I don't think McCullough will be the coach at West Texas A&M University, a public university in Canyon, Texas but I could see that happening or being asked his interest. In my opinion, I don't think McCullough will be at UTPB in 2026, I think he's at FCS program. Although, I think McCullough with some resources for coaches and facilities would easily win a national championship at West Texas A&M University, a public university in Canyon, Texas

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                        • Originally posted by Buff90 View Post
                          Girsch, McCollough, Vigil, Faske, Dorrel And I'm gonna throw in Donnie Carthel
                          Ha! Girsch would never leave Angelo for WT 🤭

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                          • Originally posted by Buff90 View Post

                            No. He’s looking ahead while his sizzle is still there. He moved pretty quickly in year one but is now raising some smoke. Lots of “only rumors” in the air. Not sure on Commerce comment. Don Carthel would get a lot of folks behind the program and I bet he’s got a few years left
                            Never happening, even if h3ll were to freeze over.

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                            • Originally posted by WT_TKW View Post

                              It’s not blasphemy as you are probably right. It would take a lot to get Don to return.

                              McBroom will get Colby straightened out. 🤣🤣🤣
                              Nothing. Absolutely NOTHING would get Don Carthel to WT. He is a proud man and once he was FIRED, GAME OVER.

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                              • Originally posted by ASUPops View Post

                                Nothing. Absolutely NOTHING would get Don Carthel to WT. He is a proud man and once he was FIRED, GAME OVER.
                                That is absolutely false, all of it, but it isn’t happening regardless.

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