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  • #16
    https://www.inforum.com/sports/footb...-drop-football

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    • #17
      Originally posted by StateU View Post
      I heard that SC is adding men's soccer!?!?
      The NSIC doesn't even sponsor it. They'd probably have to be a GLIAC affiliate like Upper Iowa is.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Inkblot View Post

        The NSIC doesn't even sponsor it. They'd probably have to be a GLIAC affiliate like Upper Iowa is.
        Guess I'll find out at 3pm

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        • #19
          Are their players (St. Cloud and Crookston) eligible immediately at other programs?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by 212 Degrees View Post
            Are their players (St. Cloud and Crookston) eligible immediately at other programs?
            I would presume so. When Nebraska-Omaha dropped their program in 2010ish, their players were immediately eligible. The schools typically will honor all existing scholarships if the students stay.
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            • #21
              That's a fun thing for students to find out about around finals.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Otis Day View Post

                I would presume so. When Nebraska-Omaha dropped their program in 2010ish, their players were immediately eligible. The schools typically will honor all existing scholarships if the students stay.
                Mankato really benefited from that and got some good players from UNO. it sucks St. Cloud is cutting football but there could be some good players there that help out other teams.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by msumavfan View Post

                  Mankato really benefited from that and got some good players from UNO. it sucks St. Cloud is cutting football but there could be some good players there that help out other teams.
                  USF did as well. A handful of my teammates started their careers as red mavericks. Their stories were crazy about the day they got the news. The initial obvious anger, ransacking of the locker room, getting recruited all over again.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by StateU View Post
                      I heard that SC is adding men's soccer!?!?
                      Revenue toilet. Anyone ever plopped down $10 to watch D-II Men's/Women's Soccer?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by msumavfan View Post

                        Mankato really benefited from that and got some good players from UNO. it sucks St. Cloud is cutting football but there could be some good players there that help out other teams.
                        I wonder how soon before other NSIC coaches start recruiting them. I know the wound is still fresh but this could help out a number of programs.

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                        • #27
                          https://www.sctimes.com/story/news/l...ow/4384166002/
                          https://www.sctimes.com/story/news/2...witter_sctimes

                          SCSU gave three reasons for dropping football (and women's golf)

                          1. To align SCSU athletics with Title IX requirements
                          An August ruling in federal court required the university to provide its female students with equitable opportunity to participate in athletics programs under the 1972 Title IX law that bars discrimination based on sex in federally funded education settings.

                          2. To ensure financial sustainability for the university and its athletics programs
                          Fall enrollment at SCSU was lower than projected and the university is facing a deficit of around $5.1 million for the fiscal year 2020. Changes in the athletics lineup will reduce athletic department budget shortfalls totaling $1.6 million over the last five years and will save around $1.25 million annually.

                          3. To ensure compliance with NCAA bylaws
                          Division II schools must sponsor a men's or mixed-gender and a women's sport in each of the three school seasons (fall, winter and spring). Men's soccer will fulfill this requirement for fall.

                          What about adding more women's programs?
                          The university said it considered adding women's programs, but none of the potential scenarios would have brought its athletics program into compliance with Title IX and address St. Cloud State's financial situation.

                          What does Title IX have to do with it?
                          In 2016 the university removed six athletic programs, including men's and women's tennis and Nordic skiing. That led to a lawsuit, with athletes claiming the university violated Title IX, a 1972 U.S. law that prohibits discrimination on the basis of sex in educational programs funded with federal dollars.

                          The judge found St. Cloud State didn't comply with Title IX from at least 2014 and ordered the university to fix the imbalance. In part, the school needs to better align the proportion of female and male athletes with the proportion men and women who are full-time, degree-seeking undergraduate students at the university.

                          Eliminating football and golf was the only way St. Cloud State found to address its financial challenges while complying with the court's order, Wacker said.

                          What about the student athletes?
                          Around 115 student athletes are affected by the program eliminations. The university will help student athletes who wish to transfer and honor scholarships for up to four years.

                          The football team had 98 players on its roster this year

                          There are eight women and eight men who play golf at St. Cloud State. It's a fall and spring sport. Golf will continue through the spring.

                          The teams have 20 scholarships; some of those scholarships are split or shared among more than one student.

                          What about students who have signed letters of intent?
                          National Letters of Intent are void if a sport program is discontinued.

                          What about the coaches and staff?What will happen with Husky Stadium?
                          Husky Stadium will continue to be used by the university's women's soccer, softball, baseball and the new men's soccer teams. High school football games will still be held at the stadium.

                          How will this affect homecoming?
                          St. Cloud State men's hockey and volleyball are scheduled for home contests during the 2020 Homecoming weekend.

                          Why men's soccer?
                          Division II schools must sponsor a men's or mixed-gender and a women's sport in each of the three school seasons and men's soccer will fulfill this requirement for fall.

                          St. Cloud State said the sport is one of the fastest-growing and requires a lower level of staffing, scholarship and operational resources compared to football.

                          When will soccer start?
                          The university said it will begin an immediate search for a head coach and intends to begin play in fall 2020.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by 212 Degrees View Post

                            I wonder how soon before other NSIC coaches start recruiting them. I know the wound is still fresh but this could help out a number of programs.
                            3:01pm

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by NSU4LIFE View Post

                              3:01pm
                              Bingo. They're already making their lists.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Otis Day View Post

                                Bingo. They're already making their lists.

                                Well, I guess I don't want SMSU left behind when there are some good student-athletes available. I hope Coach Sauter is in St. Cloud now, with a cowboy hat on, riding "Tanner" the horse and yelling "let's ride".......or at least sliding in their DMs.

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