Week 3 NSIC Game Chat

[CollegeFBGuy]

It seems like, long term, the conference would need to schedule OOC games or have schools schedule them before they do the NSIC scheduling. It would be much easier to find games with an open slate to work with

[SW_Mustang]

Those nerds should have helped us spell medical correctly.

It's the U of M - maybe they spelled it that way themselves.

[SW_Mustang]

I remember when CSP was nicknamed the Comets. NCAA Division II & Northern Sun History | 1999-present - Concordia University, St. Paul Athletics (cspbears.com)

I wonder why they changed, I like Comets.

They have to be one of the only schools that doesn't brand themselves with the words "college" or "university." I'm sure there are others (though I guess, officially they are "Concordia University, St. Paul).

I think they are the only NSIC school in Minnesota I haven't been on the campus of, now that I think about it. Should probably change that soon.

[SW_Mustang]

Once MSU returns to form (which they seem to be doing in short order), I'd like to see them come play SDSU. It's funny that they both scheduled WOU this year.

I know it's a slim-to-none chance that would actually happen as there'd be no benefit to MSU aside from a payday, but it's something I want to see.

[NSU4LIFE]

Once MSU returns to form (which they seem to be doing in short order), I'd like to see them come play SDSU. It's funny that they both scheduled WOU this year.

I know it's a slim-to-none chance that would actually happen as there'd be no benefit to MSU aside from a payday, but it's something I want to see.

I think you mean no benefit for SDSU to play MSU.

[Stanger86]

I wonder why they changed, I like Comets.

They have to be one of the only schools that doesn't brand themselves with the words "college" or "university." I'm sure there are others (though I guess, officially they are "Concordia University, St. Paul).

I think they are the only NSIC school in Minnesota I haven't been on the campus of, now that I think about it. Should probably change that soon.

It's really no different than just saying Southwest Minnesota State, Minnesota-Duluth, Upper Iowa, etc.

As for Comets, I believe they lumped it in to their move to Division II. Why? I don't know. Apparently, their mascot's name is Comet the Bear....

[zimmy21]

I wish MSU kept a history log online like SMSU does.

MSU Mankato does keep track, it's hidden away on their website...I knew I had stumbled on it before. Took me 15 minutes of clicking away to find it again!

https://msumavericks.com/sports/foot...ponent-history

Mankato has a decent amount of history against D1 schools, not great record-wise whatsoever, but quite a few games compared to some

Current FCS -

Idaho 0-2
Illinois Sate 0-3-1
North Dakota 7-24-1*
North Dakota State 6-26 *
Northern Colorado 7-14*
Northern Iowa 2-5-2*
Portland State 1-3
South Dakota 12-19*
South Dakota State 19-15*
St. Thomas 2-3*
Tarleton State 1-0*
Texas A&M Commerce 1-1*
Western Illinois 2-5

Current FBS -

Iowa State 0-7-1
Northern Illinois 0-1
UTEP 0-1

Defunct

Nebraska-Omaha 11-15*
UIC 2-0

[SW_Mustang]

I think you mean no benefit for SDSU to play MSU.

Disagree. If SDSU didn't benefit from playing D2 teams, they wouldn't have scheduled Lindenwood and WOU.

MSU on the other hand either faces a guaranteed loss, or an extremely hypothetical win that wouldn't count for much in the regional rankings. They'd get some glory for said extremely hypothetical win, which would be neat, but it's SDSU so it's not like that glory is going to translate into much anyway.

[SW_Mustang]

MSU Mankato does keep track, it's hidden away on their website...I knew I had stumbled on it before. Took me 15 minutes of clicking away to find it again!

https://msumavericks.com/sports/foot...ponent-history

Hey, neat! I like that kind of stuff. I know what I'm digging into tonight. I definitely know I tried to find that in the past and came up short.

Thanks!

[SW_Mustang]

It's really no different than just saying Southwest Minnesota State, Minnesota-Duluth, Upper Iowa, etc.

As for Comets, I believe they lumped it in to their move to Division II. Why? I don't know. Apparently, their mascot's name is Comet the Bear....

Those are shorthand and informal references. Officially, those schools brand themselves as SMSU, UMD, and UIU - but Concordia doesn't anymore. They used to brand as "CU" and now they brand as "CSP"

Not that it really matters, I just think it's interesting that they dropped "University" from their branding. Maybe to not get confused with the Cobbers.

[zimmy21]

Hey, neat! I like that kind of stuff. I know what I'm digging into tonight. I definitely know I tried to find that in the past and came up short.

Thanks!

The only way I could find it was by picking a team on the schedule, clicking history...that brings you to that team specific history but in the top left there is a hidden link that looks like this...
football history> University of Sioux Falls (S.D.) .... for example

[NSU4LIFE]

Disagree. If SDSU didn't benefit from playing D2 teams, they wouldn't have scheduled Lindenwood and WOU.

MSU on the other hand either faces a guaranteed loss, or an extremely hypothetical win that wouldn't count for much in the regional rankings. They'd get some glory for said extremely hypothetical win, which would be neat, but it's SDSU so it's not like that glory is going to translate into much anyway.

The only benefit for playing down is a glorified practice. If you lose that is a black eye without question.

If MSU pulled it off it'd be huge. As we have seen and been noted, when schools pull off upsets of a higher division it translates into clicks and apps. Maybe not as many for a D2 beating an FCS champion, but no one is excited to go watch the Jacks beat up some school that is lower.

When the Gophers lost to both SD schools in different sports, it certainly didn't fire up the U of M faithful and if you read anything online, the sky was falling. To say the higher school gains anything is absolutely ridiculous.

I get that you dont like SDSU and that whole level, you've made that pretty clear, but now you just arent making sense.

[wscsuperfan]

I probably wouldn't pick us outright, but I think that's a favorable spread that SMSU has a decent chance to beat. Gotta punch it in to the end zone though. Sounds easy enough, but Mustangs have been held to 16 or fewer points in the last 5 games of the WSC series (streak of 11 games of 20+ points before that).

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[NSU4LIFE]

That might be the closest thing to trash talk I have ever seen from Super. You were due and I'm proud of you. Haha

[SW_Mustang]

The only benefit for playing down is a glorified practice. If you lose that is a black eye without question.

If MSU pulled it off it'd be huge. As we have seen and been noted, when schools pull off upsets of a higher division it translates into clicks and apps. Maybe not as many for a D2 beating an FCS champion, but no one is excited to go watch the Jacks beat up some school that is lower.

When the Gophers lost to both SD schools in different sports, it certainly didn't fire up the U of M faithful and if you read anything online, the sky was falling. To say the higher school gains anything is absolutely ridiculous.

I get that you dont like SDSU and that whole level, you've made that pretty clear, but now you just arent making sense.

Like I said, they wouldn't keep doing it if they didn't gain anything from it. Maybe I'm just salty about their basketball team beating their chest over their home record after scheduling NAIA schools and Morris, and am assuming that's just the culture of the athletic department.

People went nuts for that WOU game. It sold out. I live within walking distance of the stadium. The blowout was paraded around quite well, at least in my circles.

It's FCS and DII. It would be a footnote on ESPN at absolute best if MSU won. I doubt anyone would actually care outside of the fan bases, or at best the hardcore fans in their respective divisions. If wins over FCS teams aren't used in rankings, MSU has no real gain. When is the sky not falling in Gopherville?

I don't hate SDSU, I just don't get what the big deal is with them academically or athletically. The fanbase is pretty insufferable - not as bad as NDSU but still...

Anyway, I said my piece. Let's move on.