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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    I agree. He's an icon there. He wouldn't tarnish his legacy over a couple players.

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  • Sportsnut
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    Crutch is a class guy. I can't imagine that he would take anybody with him or try to sway any of the WL recruits to NOVA. There are plenty of fish out there, especially at the D2 level and Crutch won't have trouble getting his share, especially with those facilities and location.

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  • Columbuseer
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    Originally posted by Penguins87 View Post
    As I understand it, no MEC schools or Nova. They are conditional releases.
    Given what crutch has done for the image of west lib, I am disappointed they are excluding people from playing for crutch. I thought I read last year where clay reached out to crutch first even though Fairmont state had a full court press to sign him. It wasn't like an assistant coach discovered him. They are leaving anyhow so why not show appreciation to crutch? If they go to Lincoln memorial we could live to regret it next year likevdyer to iup. Crutch is probably 2 yrs away at least from an elite 8. Crutch let Columbo go to Notre Dame. Not very shrewd by wlu.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Pretty standard. Generally it's no transfer in conference or to any team on the schedule. This one obviously has a clause for Jesus down in Ft. Lauderdale, too.

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  • Penguins87
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    As I understand it, no MEC schools or Nova. They are conditional releases.

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  • DUPanther
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    Originally posted by Penguins87 View Post
    Not as simple as transferring wherever you like. Your school has to release you and can impose parameters.
    If they're visiting other schools, they've already got their release.

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  • Penguins87
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    Not as simple as transferring wherever you like. Your school has to release you and can impose parameters.

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  • DUPanther
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    Originally posted by HeavenontheHill View Post
    Dennis and Clay follow Crutchfield to Nova? Hasn't anyone been keeping up on their reading? Crutchfield is quoted as saying Dennis would be making a huge mistake leaving WL. Crutchfield encouraged all of the players to stay at WL. The only one I could see leaving would be Monteroso because he only has 1 year left, but do you want to have a chance to win the conference again or spend your last year in a rebuilding mission? My money is on he stays.
    It is hilarious that everyone automatically assumes these transfers are headed to Nova. Last year when Dennis did the exact same thing, Crutchfield shook his hand and said good luck. Didn't bat an eye or beg him to stay. That tells me Crutch is not in a hurry to take him to Nova. Clay could be another story, but let's hope not.
    Ben Howlett has been the main recruiter st WLU for at least the last 2 years if not 3. Let's try to keep up with the facts. Ben is the one traveling through Ohio to the state tourney and has been for years.
    Of course, when you have friends on other sports teams and ex teammates still running around the ASRC, you get the insider trading information.
    That's right Nut, not handing out towels like you posted.
    They both visited Lincoln Memorial yesterday.

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  • Penguins87
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    Yes they are.

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  • Columbuseer
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    By that logic, though, would it then say that all of Ben's recruits from the past several years are bailing on him?

    Let's also keep in mind we're talking about D2 players here. It's not like it's North Carolina types. These guys, for the most part, are all pretty replaceable. Based on your Crutch comments toward Dennis ... it kind of proves it.

    The assistants at most good programs do all the recruiting. The head honchos aren't spending their weekends watching tournament after tournament in Podunk, USA. They come in at the end to close the deal.
    Don't really disagree. But crutch was at north south all star game at otterbein in Westerville ohio last year. Clay and Dalton were guarding each other.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Nick Smith to Nova SE per VC

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  • Layton
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    Grossenbacher highlights

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PpRomtLFwac

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    By that logic, though, would it then say that all of Ben's recruits from the past several years are bailing on him?

    Let's also keep in mind we're talking about D2 players here. It's not like it's North Carolina types. These guys, for the most part, are all pretty replaceable. Based on your Crutch comments toward Dennis ... it kind of proves it.

    The assistants at most good programs do all the recruiting. The head honchos aren't spending their weekends watching tournament after tournament in Podunk, USA. They come in at the end to close the deal.
    Last edited by IUPbigINDIANS; 04-07-2017, 01:53 PM.

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  • HeavenontheHill
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    Dennis and Clay follow Crutchfield to Nova? Hasn't anyone been keeping up on their reading? Crutchfield is quoted as saying Dennis would be making a huge mistake leaving WL. Crutchfield encouraged all of the players to stay at WL. The only one I could see leaving would be Monteroso because he only has 1 year left, but do you want to have a chance to win the conference again or spend your last year in a rebuilding mission? My money is on he stays.
    It is hilarious that everyone automatically assumes these transfers are headed to Nova. Last year when Dennis did the exact same thing, Crutchfield shook his hand and said good luck. Didn't bat an eye or beg him to stay. That tells me Crutch is not in a hurry to take him to Nova. Clay could be another story, but let's hope not.
    Ben Howlett has been the main recruiter st WLU for at least the last 2 years if not 3. Let's try to keep up with the facts. Ben is the one traveling through Ohio to the state tourney and has been for years.
    Of course, when you have friends on other sports teams and ex teammates still running around the ASRC, you get the insider trading information.
    That's right Nut, not handing out towels like you posted.
    Last edited by HeavenontheHill; 04-07-2017, 01:39 PM.

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  • Columbuseer
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    Originally posted by boatcapt View Post
    ... He believes he is D1 calibre....
    ...
    I wish David well.

    If he were my son, I would tell him the following:

    1. No one is going to care 5 yrs from now whether you played D1 or D2.

    2. If you are going D1, get the most long-term financial benefit you can. Consider only prestigious academic schools like Princeton, harvard, Yale, etc. Ivy League, Rice, Vanderbilt, etc. That education costs $200K at least. The ivy league diploma is worth huge $. It is an automatic interview for any position. Don't get lured by the siren song of unscrupulous D1 coaches who feed you the NBA dream and will steer you to courses that are too easy just to keep your basketball practice schedule open. If no prestigious academic schools offer, choose a D2 school that has the same balance between academics and athletics that the Ivy League has.

    3. Gently I would say: You have gotten 100% out of your natural ability thru incredible hard work, intelligence and determination. You will continue to improve. However, there are natural physical limits that will keep you out of the NBA that you cannot control. So do not set that as the primary goal, but consider it a windfall if it occurs. Consider Europe if you want to play after graduating from an ivy league college.


    My 2 cents worth.

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