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You are right. WCU will break out tonight in the Regional.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostHey, look, the moron troll is back.
Maybe so, Troll man, ... how's your WCU and Mansfield boys doing? Getting ready for the banquets?
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Thought about it all week. Vegas official line is IUP -2.5
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Originally posted by Columbuseer View PostJust a comment on the "don't play defense" thread regarding West Liberty. I think that high scoring per game is not necessarily a sign of bad defense.
WLU just actively looks for a good shot earlier in the shot clock than most teams. More possessions = more points (for both teams).
WLU presses to generate turnovers and tire the other team, which also translates into more possession and more points.
I have broken down WLU scoring in some games into 4 minute intervals. When they have their press going and the other team tires, some games they will score 15-18 points in one 4 minute interval.
This year's WLU team plays very good defense. Witness the MEC title game against Fairmont.
WL shot 21% from 3, 58% of free throws, and FSU turned them over 17 times. In other years, that would have been a loss against any team, not to mention the #1 team in the country.
They are recruiting much more athletic players than in the past, who can defend better in the open court and have the quickness to score inside as well as outside. For example, I think the true frosh Guillozet was the record setting Scorer in basketball and best QB in football at Greenville Ohio. Of course, Monterosa is a wholly different level of athlete - D1 Receiver at Purdue, 2300 pt scorer in St. Clairsville.
A lot of D1 teams and some D2 teams with overcontrolling coaches don't start looking for a good shot until 15 seconds left on the shot clock. Keeps the score down and it is Real easy to guard someone who is just patting the ball and not passing the ball or just doing a 2 man game for half the shot clock. In the 60s and 70s, many teams were averaging 80 points a game (before the stupidly outrageous coaching salaries started).
Anyhow, my 2 cents worth.
Oh my God... seriously.
I lost interest 3 words in.
Post a sentence, not an article. Please.
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Originally posted by Columbuseer View PostJust a comment on the "don't play defense" thread regarding West Liberty. I think that high scoring per game is not necessarily a sign of bad defense.
WLU just actively looks for a good shot earlier in the shot clock than most teams. More possessions = more points (for both teams).
WLU presses to generate turnovers and tire the other team, which also translates into more possession and more points.
I have broken down WLU scoring in some games into 4 minute intervals. When they have their press going and the other team tires, some games they will score 15-18 points in one 4 minute interval.
This year's WLU team plays very good defense. Witness the MEC title game against Fairmont.
WL shot 21% from 3, 58% of free throws, and FSU turned them over 17 times. In other years, that would have been a loss against any team, not to mention the #1 team in the country.
They are recruiting much more athletic players than in the past, who can defend better in the open court and have the quickness to score inside as well as outside. For example, I think the true frosh Guillozet was the record setting Scorer in basketball and best QB in football at Greenville Ohio. Of course, Monterosa is a wholly different level of athlete - D1 Receiver at Purdue, 2300 pt scorer in St. Clairsville.
A lot of D1 teams and some D2 teams with overcontrolling coaches don't start looking for a good shot until 15 seconds left on the shot clock. Keeps the score down and it is Real easy to guard someone who is just patting the ball and not passing the ball or just doing a 2 man game for half the shot clock. In the 60s and 70s, many teams were averaging 80 points a game (before the stupidly outrageous coaching salaries started).
Anyhow, my 2 cents worth.
But they've evolved into a much better half court defensive team since out of necessity. A group of guys that can press like the 2011 team doesn't come around very often. Now they can win a 67-65 game while still obviously having the ability to put up a ton of points.
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Just a comment on the "don't play defense" thread regarding West Liberty. I think that high scoring per game is not necessarily a sign of bad defense.
WLU just actively looks for a good shot earlier in the shot clock than most teams. More possessions = more points (for both teams).
WLU presses to generate turnovers and tire the other team, which also translates into more possession and more points.
I have broken down WLU scoring in some games into 4 minute intervals. When they have their press going and the other team tires, some games they will score 15-18 points in one 4 minute interval.
This year's WLU team plays very good defense. Witness the MEC title game against Fairmont.
WL shot 21% from 3, 58% of free throws, and FSU turned them over 17 times. In other years, that would have been a loss against any team, not to mention the #1 team in the country.
They are recruiting much more athletic players than in the past, who can defend better in the open court and have the quickness to score inside as well as outside. For example, I think the true frosh Guillozet was the record setting Scorer in basketball and best QB in football at Greenville Ohio. Of course, Monterosa is a wholly different level of athlete - D1 Receiver at Purdue, 2300 pt scorer in St. Clairsville.
A lot of D1 teams and some D2 teams with overcontrolling coaches don't start looking for a good shot until 15 seconds left on the shot clock. Keeps the score down and it is Real easy to guard someone who is just patting the ball and not passing the ball or just doing a 2 man game for half the shot clock. In the 60s and 70s, many teams were averaging 80 points a game (before the stupidly outrageous coaching salaries started).
Anyhow, my 2 cents worth.
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Cobo received a fan letter from an elementary student in Indiana. It told him he was his favorite player and asked if he could meet him some day.
Cobo showed up at the kids house with a signed 8x10 photo, took a photo together and spent some time with the young boy.
.... very impressive and a class move.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostSt. Francis wins this game on ESPN2 ... they go to the Big Dance -- and probably play Kansas or some power. Funny to think they are only a half hour or so from IUP. That should be a yearly exhibition in basketball or even a regular season game. I'm surprised we've never got any transfers from there (that I can recall anyway).
I went to my first game up in Loretto this year. Those guys can play. I was impressed. They have some ballers this year.
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St. Francis wins this game on ESPN2 ... they go to the Big Dance -- and probably play Kansas or some power. Funny to think they are only a half hour or so from IUP. That should be a yearly exhibition in basketball or even a regular season game. I'm surprised we've never got any transfers from there (that I can recall anyway).
I went to my first game up in Loretto this year. Those guys can play. I was impressed. They have some ballers this year.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostSo, in order:
WJ/WL (12pm)
Ship/VUU
break
FSU/BS (6pm-ish)
IUP/Kutz
Anybody ever attended and did the full day?
I was also at the quarterfinal day of the 2014 women's Elite Eight. Even more fantastic and draining.
Wish I could be at Fairmont on Saturday, even if Gannon isn't playing.
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Sleva isn't a senior this year. He's only a junior.
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To add a little sabermetrics to the Seger vs Sleva Holy War: Comparison of Seger's Senior Year Stats vs Sleva's Junior Year Stats.
MINUTES TOTAL 3-PTS F-THROWS REBOUNDS SCORING ## Player GP GS Tot Avg FG FGA Pct 3FG FGA Pct FT FTA Pct Off Def Tot Avg PF FO A TO Blk Stl Pts Avg 12 SLEVA, Dustin 28 28 910 32.5 219 405 .541 51 126 .405 132 164 .805 78 235 313 11.2 78 2 90 65 22 27 621 22.2 MINUTES TOTAL 3-PTS F-THROWS REBOUNDS SCORING ## Player GP GS Tot Avg FG FGA Pct 3FG FGA Pct FT FTA Pct Off Def Tot Avg PF FO A TO Blk Stl Pts Avg Seger Bonifant 35 35 1155 33 312 535 .583 114 231 .494 152 182 .835 34 150 184 5.3 89 2 107 70 27 22 890 25.4
I assumed incorrectly, that Sleva was a senior. He's actually a junior, so that makes the comparison a bit stickier.
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So, in order:
WJ/WL (12pm)
Ship/VUU
break
FSU/BS (6pm-ish)
IUP/Kutz
Anybody ever attended and did the full day?
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Anyone who's followed the Atlantic Regional for any length of time already knew this, but it's official on IUP's website. The game with Kutztown will be the nightcap on Saturday, tipping around 8:30 or 30 minutes after the Fairmont/Bowie game ends
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Getting back to the subject thread here ...
The biggest item in this Kutztown game is how Joe defends Ethan Ridgeway -- the Golden Bears' dynamic (ultra fast and elusive) 5'10" point guard.
In the first meeting (77-76 IUP win), Dante only played 16 minutes and sat almost the entire second half. Spain is best-suited to defend Ridgeway but I wonder if that's the plan? In simplified terms, the Kutztown offense is largely Ridgeway creating havoc driving to the hoop and then kicking it out or (if it's there) taking the shot/layup. His height keeps him very low to the ground and with his speed, he's very difficult and hard to guard. Spain did a very good job on him in the first game but that largely takes Dante (and his offense) off the floor.
That matchup, whomever covers Ridgeway, will determine who wins this game. Ridgeway would be an extremely difficult matchup for Dante. My 'coaching plan' would be Spain starts over Hutton in this case and keep Dante on the floor but Spain gets the defensive assignment.
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