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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Hard to say. I'd like to see them continue the series. Maybe WL would be more open to the series now. In Crutch's defense, if that story is true, I wouldn't have agreed to a 2-for-1, either. I think Joe can pull that stuff with the lesser programs but not with heavyweights. That said, Joe wouldn't have taken the opposite of that with Fairmont so I'm sure they'll be at the KCAC the following year to complete a 2-and-2.

    For as close in proximity as many schools are I'd much rather watch these games than see WL host Cheyney, etc. IUP used to routinely play Wheeling Jesuit but that stopped many, many years ago. I'd have loved to see IUP vs. Wheeling Jesuit this year in the regular season. Or WL/Fairmont vs. Shippensburg. But, we probably will soon enough come March. There are some real loaded teams this year in SR1. IUP's been building up for these next two years for a couple years. I don't think expectations for the next two seasons could be any higher.

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  • IUP24
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    The Dec. 19 game against Fairmont State is confirmed to be in WV.

    Fairmont initially posted the game as being in Indiana.
    So here is my question... Was this the supposed 2 for 1 contract that IUP apparently wanted and WLU said no too? Is Fairmont coming to IUP then for the 2018 season?
    Last edited by IUP24; 08-23-2017, 12:42 PM.

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  • IUP24
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Gannon added a post player to the roster. Kofi Mills (6'8", 220 lbs) from Niagara CC (JUCO). He doesn't bring overly impressive stats with him (started about half the games there and averaged about 6 pts and 5 boards but does block shots).

    Gannon took two major off-season losses with freshman PG Jimmy Berger and guard Ian Gardner leaving the program. Not sure what to expect in the Hammermill this season. Each off-season lately is becoming a mass exodus of its top players.
    Admittedly haven't had my ear to the ground, but where did Gardner and Berger go? Both were nice players.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Gannon added a post player to the roster. Kofi Mills (6'8", 220 lbs) from Niagara CC (JUCO). He doesn't bring overly impressive stats with him (started about half the games there and averaged about 6 pts and 5 boards but does block shots).

    Gannon took two major off-season losses with freshman PG Jimmy Berger and guard Ian Gardner leaving the program. Not sure what to expect in the Hammermill this season. Each off-season lately is becoming a mass exodus of its top players.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    The Dec. 19 game against Fairmont State is confirmed to be in WV.

    Fairmont initially posted the game as being in Indiana.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    True. Joe doesn't recruit IHS kids, either.

    Dow ran in to a very sticky situation with some VERY influential locals. Much of it never made this board or obviously in to the press.


    On that note, I could see Joe having some interest in IHS rising senior Carlos Carter.

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  • IUPalum
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Lol ... agree 100 percent. But ... ask Jeff Dow how that theory worked out.
    No need to ask Jeff Dow, if he isn't strong enough to keep the parents away then he's got to go!!! It's college and these girls are adults. Parents = good bye!!!

    You don't see Joe having these problems!!!

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  • IUP CRIMSON HAWKS
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    Originally posted by IUPalum View Post
    Parents should be non factors!!! It's college not little league!
    Politics is still politics!

    It should be real interesting to see how a certain situation plays out this season!

    -

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Lol ... agree 100 percent. But ... ask Jeff Dow how that theory worked out.

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  • IUPalum
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    Parents should be non factors!!! It's college not little league!

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    That's an impressive exhibition schedule. The Notre Dame women are a powerhouse. I've said it many times this off-season ... Tom's biggest hurdle this year isn't going to be talent on the floor ... it's going to be keeping all that said talent happy (and the parents). When you have a roster legitimately 12-13 deep ... that's a lot of mouths to feed.

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  • IUPalum
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    That's certainly the rumor for the second exhibition.

    Notre Dame, my opinion, has one of the most underrated basketball facilities/atmospheres in the country. The women's program there draws huge crowds, too.
    The women playing at Notre Dame is no rumor. Take a look at their auction and there is a trip listed for their trip to be bid on. It's transportation, an ND tour, locker room access and honorary coach during the ND game.

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  • IUPalum
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    It's been a pretty revolving door since Fite left. I've heard he's pretty tough on the assistants.

    That said, it's very hard to make a living as a D2 assistant in basketball. The goal of any of these guys is to get to the next job up the ladder as fast as possible.

    He does get on them as much during games as he does the players.

    I don't know how closely you pay attention to IUP but Joe operates the program like a D1. He has the biggest game-day staff I've ever seen near the bench in 30-some years of watching D2 basketball. There is literally somebody to do everything. It's almost comical compared to other schools in the PSAC.

    Joe also tends to only hire young and up-and-coming assistants -- generally guys who played D1 basketball in the not-so-distant past. I think it's a good move as they do most of the initial recruiting -- and likely suit up for practice at times. I think he's tough but also realistic that he's not going to keep guys around paying them $30,000 a year or whatever the number is now.

    For most of the guys I think it's just simple. If they want to stay in the profession they have to get their year in and move along. There just isn't enough money to stay there full-time. Joe gives them a good learning year and a good resume bump and it's time to move to the next spot.
    Things like this are why Joe wins every year!!!

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    It's been a pretty revolving door since Fite left. I've heard he's pretty tough on the assistants.

    That said, it's very hard to make a living as a D2 assistant in basketball. The goal of any of these guys is to get to the next job up the ladder as fast as possible.

    He does get on them as much during games as he does the players.

    I don't know how closely you pay attention to IUP but Joe operates the program like a D1. He has the biggest game-day staff I've ever seen near the bench in 30-some years of watching D2 basketball. There is literally somebody to do everything. It's almost comical compared to other schools in the PSAC.

    Joe also tends to only hire young and up-and-coming assistants -- generally guys who played D1 basketball in the not-so-distant past. I think it's a good move as they do most of the initial recruiting -- and likely suit up for practice at times. I think he's tough but also realistic that he's not going to keep guys around paying them $30,000 a year or whatever the number is now.

    For most of the guys I think it's just simple. If they want to stay in the profession they have to get their year in and move along. There just isn't enough money to stay there full-time. Joe gives them a good learning year and a good resume bump and it's time to move to the next spot.
    Last edited by IUPbigINDIANS; 08-15-2017, 08:35 AM.

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  • IUP Extra Mile
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    I know there is transience and turnover in all coaching ranks, but seems like there's more turnover at IUP Mens coaching ranks than typical....anyone else think so? Saw on website there's a new asst in town...

    Wonder if Joe is a tough fella to work for?

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