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I think most top tier players in the top of D-2 can absolutely play at the D-1 level. Whether it is a Power 5 or a mid-major depends on the situation/style of play and the position that is played. Hawkins possesses a game that is so versatile that I thought he was a lock to be able to fit in to a good D-2 program. Cam Martin on the other hand is not very versatile and prolly went to a program that was too much of a stretch for him. I feel like he should have went to the Missouri Valley. I just didn't think his game would transition as well to the D-2 level. As far as Trevor goes, I am not sure on him. He is the best scoring point guard that I have ever seen. I think it is much harder to score from the point guard position at the D-1 level. So the question becomes, is Trevor a good enough playmaker and defender to make an impact at the D-1 level from the point guard position or is he primarily a scorer first. I know he is for NWMS but could he transition his game to the D-1 level. I think he could but I think he would have to play much differently where as Hawkins sort of plays the same. Inside/outside, able to guard multiple positions and crash the boards. That is kind of what he did for NWMS last year but he averages 13 and 7 vs 22 and 9 last year at NWMS.
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Originally posted by Btech#3 View PostI think most top tier players in the top of D-2 can absolutely play at the D-1 level. Whether it is a Power 5 or a mid-major depends on the situation/style of play and the position that is played. Hawkins possesses a game that is so versatile that I thought he was a lock to be able to fit in to a good D-2 program. Cam Martin on the other hand is not very versatile and prolly went to a program that was too much of a stretch for him. I feel like he should have went to the Missouri Valley. I just didn't think his game would transition as well to the D-2 level. As far as Trevor goes, I am not sure on him. He is the best scoring point guard that I have ever seen. I think it is much harder to score from the point guard position at the D-1 level. So the question becomes, is Trevor a good enough playmaker and defender to make an impact at the D-1 level from the point guard position or is he primarily a scorer first. I know he is for NWMS but could he transition his game to the D-1 level. I think he could but I think he would have to play much differently where as Hawkins sort of plays the same. Inside/outside, able to guard multiple positions and crash the boards. That is kind of what he did for NWMS last year but he averages 13 and 7 vs 22 and 9 last year at NWMS.
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Trevor is a special talent. I certainly wasn't wanting to underestimate him. He may very well be able to do about the same at the next level. Hawkins almost has and with less minutes you could argue that he is doing about the same per minute. The prognosticators will tell you that the bigs (4 men and 5 men) are where there is the most difference between D1 and D2. I think Hawkins' ability to play the 3 has helped him. He might be a little undersized at the 4 position. I think there is very little difference in the guard play except sometimes you have those 6'4" and 6'5" point guards that can really go at the D-1 level. We certainly don't see that at the D-2 level. I know Geiman had a lot of interest at the D-1 level but elected not to go into the portal. The rumor was that the likes of Wyoming, Bradley, UNLV and Drake inquired about him thru other methods (i.e. AAU coaches, HS coaches and etc.). I have no idea what he could have done at that level but he is a true point which some times is hard to find at any level.
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Originally posted by Btech#3 View PostI think most top tier players in the top of D-2 can absolutely play at the D-1 level. Whether it is a Power 5 or a mid-major depends on the situation/style of play and the position that is played. Hawkins possesses a game that is so versatile that I thought he was a lock to be able to fit in to a good D-2 program. Cam Martin on the other hand is not very versatile and prolly went to a program that was too much of a stretch for him. I feel like he should have went to the Missouri Valley. I just didn't think his game would transition as well to the D-2 level. As far as Trevor goes, I am not sure on him. He is the best scoring point guard that I have ever seen. I think it is much harder to score from the point guard position at the D-1 level. So the question becomes, is Trevor a good enough playmaker and defender to make an impact at the D-1 level from the point guard position or is he primarily a scorer first. I know he is for NWMS but could he transition his game to the D-1 level. I think he could but I think he would have to play much differently where as Hawkins sort of plays the same. Inside/outside, able to guard multiple positions and crash the boards. That is kind of what he did for NWMS last year but he averages 13 and 7 vs 22 and 9 last year at NWMS.
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Originally posted by Btech#3 View PostTrevor is a special talent. I certainly wasn't wanting to underestimate him. He may very well be able to do about the same at the next level. Hawkins almost has and with less minutes you could argue that he is doing about the same per minute. The prognosticators will tell you that the bigs (4 men and 5 men) are where there is the most difference between D1 and D2. I think Hawkins' ability to play the 3 has helped him. He might be a little undersized at the 4 position. I think there is very little difference in the guard play except sometimes you have those 6'4" and 6'5" point guards that can really go at the D-1 level. We certainly don't see that at the D-2 level. I know Geiman had a lot of interest at the D-1 level but elected not to go into the portal. The rumor was that the likes of Wyoming, Bradley, UNLV and Drake inquired about him thru other methods (i.e. AAU coaches, HS coaches and etc.). I have no idea what he could have done at that level but he is a true point which some times is hard to find at any level.
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Originally posted by NWFanatic View PostHawk had another good night 14 pt/12 rebounds as CU held off GU. Still hard to watch CU after watching NW for years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M6DrU7YJNE
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Originally posted by vikingfaithful View PostHawkins would be playing for another NC with NW instead of fighting for a shot at the NCAA tourney with Creighton if he would at stayed
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