G-MAC Basketball

[schnautza]

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[WKYDave]

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Interesting observation I just noticed in my database...looking at only D2 competition, the G-MAC has the best out-of-conference record across all 24 conferences (69.9%).
They also have the highest average P.I. out of all 24 conferences (12.50).

It seems to me that the recent additions of several GLIAC teams have really turned the GMAC into a formidable basketball conference.


I'm sure somebody will ask, so I'll report that the GLVC is 7th and the GLIAC is 10th in average PI. The GLVC is 6th and the GLIAC is 13th in non-conference win%.

Yet they are a 2-bid league this year at best while the GLVC is possibly a 4-bid league!?!

Why do you think that is so?

[BlueBlood]

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Thanks for sharing. Surprised.

[glvcpro]

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Not trying to downplay the accomplishment of having the best out of conference record, but would that have anything to do with who the out of conference opponents were? Obviously if they played a lot of weak out of conference teams they would likely have a high winning percentage, not saying that is the case here but just wondering if the strength of the out of conference competition was taken into account.

[crixus]

Re: G-MAC Basketball

Interesting observation I just noticed in my database...looking at only D2 competition, the G-MAC has the best out-of-conference record across all 24 conferences (69.9%).
They also have the highest average P.I. out of all 24 conferences (12.50).

It seems to me that the recent additions of several GLIAC teams have really turned the GMAC into a formidable basketball conference.


I'm sure somebody will ask, so I'll report that the GLVC is 7th and the GLIAC is 10th in average PI. The GLVC is 6th and the GLIAC is 13th in non-conference win%.

Good info. to know. Thank you. Go GMAC!

[KnightStalker]

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Yet they are a 2-bid league this year at best while the GLVC is possibly a 4-bid league!?!

Why do you think that is so?

Possibly one bid conference if Findlay wins GMAC tourney and GLVC a 5 team bid (look out for Drury)

[WKYDave]

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Possibly one bid conference if Findlay wins GMAC tourney and GLVC a 5 team bid (look out for Drury)

If Drury beats Indy in first round of GLVC Tournament, I think Indy is out of NCAA.

[schnautza]

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Well, this is embarrassing. The sheet that I was referencing that data off of had some weird errors in the formulas (probably from sorting and filtering) so lines were getting crossed between conferences. I've fixed it and I can tell you that I was flat out wrong on all of my claims. Please disregard my previous post. I've blanked it out so as not to confuse anybody further.

To set the record straight,
GLVC - average PI = 11.80 (#10), average nonconf win% = 50.5% (#13)
GLIAC - average PI = 12.13 (#5), average nonconf win% = 51.6% (#11)
GMAC - average PI = 11.31 (#19), average nonconf win% = 45.8% (#17)

[schnautza]

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If anybody's curious about who's played what quality of competition, here's an overly detailed breakdown.
Summary:
Way above average GMAC teams played average GLIAC teams.
Moderately above average GLVC teams played way above average GMAC teams.
Way above average GLVC teams played moderately under average GLIAC teams.

GMAC:
average win% of nonconference opponents ONLY: 49.9%
breakdown by conference - [average win% of select opponents], [average win% of entire conference]: (this indicates whether the teams played were above/below average for teams in that conference)
(22) GLIAC - 50.2%, 50.3%
(15) GLVC - 53.8%, 50.2%
(10 MEC - 53.7%, 51.2%
(6) PSAC - 32.9%, 49.8%
(5) IND - 48.4%, 31.8%
(5) SIAC - 47.2%, 43.3%
(4) SSC - 45.5%, 53.8%
(3) GSC - 60.3%, 50.0%
(1) CIAA - 22.7%, 48.6%
(1) ECC - 84.6%, 47.6%

GLVC:
average win% of nonconference opponents ONLY: 53.3%
breakdown by conference:
(28) MIAA - 55.7%, 53.4%
(25) GLIAC - 47.0%, 50.3%
(15) GMAC - 58.7%, 49.0%
(5) HC - 55.5%, 50.2%
(5) NSIC - 43.3%, 50.2%
(4) SSC - 63.1%, 53.8%
(3) GAC - 46.5%, 49.5%
(2) GSC - 61.3%, 50.0%
(2) LSC - 73.4%, 52.9%
(2) PWC - 65.4%, 48.5%
(1) CC - 55.6%, 47.3%
(1) IND - 0% (guess who?), 31.8%

GLIAC:
average win% of nonconference opponents ONLY: 54.6%
breakdown by conference:
(25) GLVC - 60.5%, 50.2%
(22) GMAC - 57.0%, 49.0%
(4) GNAC - 33.6%, 51.2%
(3) NSIC - 53.7%, 50.2%
(2) HC - 43.9%, 50.2%
(2) MEC - 45.2%, 51.2%
(2) PSAC - 35.2%, 49.8%
(1) CC - 32.0%, 47.3%
(1) MIAA - 100% (guess who?), 53.4%
(1) SIAC - 16.0%, 43.3%
(1) SSC - 37.0%, 53.8%

[WKYDave]

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Well, this is embarrassing. The sheet that I was referencing that data off of had some weird errors in the formulas (probably from sorting and filtering) so lines were getting crossed between conferences. I've fixed it and I can tell you that I was flat out wrong on all of my claims. Please disregard my previous post. I've blanked it out so as not to confuse anybody further.

To set the record straight,
GLVC - average PI = 11.80 (#10), average nonconf win% = 50.5% (#13)
GLIAC - average PI = 12.13 (#5), average nonconf win% = 51.6% (#11)
GMAC - average PI = 11.31 (#19), average nonconf win% = 45.8% (#17)

Don't be so hard on yourself. You do an amazing job on this stuff and it is easy to imagine spreadsheet errors.

[glvcpro]

Re: G-MAC Basketball

Well, this is embarrassing. The sheet that I was referencing that data off of had some weird errors in the formulas (probably from sorting and filtering) so lines were getting crossed between conferences. I've fixed it and I can tell you that I was flat out wrong on all of my claims. Please disregard my previous post. I've blanked it out so as not to confuse anybody further.

To set the record straight,
GLVC - average PI = 11.80 (#10), average nonconf win% = 50.5% (#13)
GLIAC - average PI = 12.13 (#5), average nonconf win% = 51.6% (#11)
GMAC - average PI = 11.31 (#19), average nonconf win% = 45.8% (#17)

[schnautza]

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(PI means Performance Indicators)
The best nonconference win percentage goes to the Northeast 10 (69.9%).
Looking at their data, 46 games against CCAA teams (who has the 2nd worst nonconf win% at 36%) 37 games against ECC teams (nonconf win% of 43%). The remaining 10 games were against stronger LSC, PSAC, and SSC teams.
It looks like the NE10 conference benefits from having very weak neighboring conferences.

[kdubnation]

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Anyone know what happened with D&E before the last week of the season??? Between their 2/23 game vs Trevecca and their 2/28 game vs Cedarville, 5 players showed up on Verbal Commits as "transferring" and none of them played in the final two games of the season for them. This included 2 of their top guards (Friend & Bonar) and big man Trevor English.

I mean I can understand if the players want to transfer because the program is not doing so hot and/or is switching conferences, etc. But quitting before the season is over just seems wrong. Unless there were some circumstances around it that aren't being made widely known. Anyone in the area hear anything about this by chance?

[BlueBlood]

[BlueBlood]

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For some reason, I can't get the brackets to paste. mens's link:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sit..._Bracket_1.pdf

women's:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sit..._Bracket_1.pdf

Final Four will be hosted by the highest remaining seed.