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Originally posted by Stea1th View PostSalem may not be a perfect addition, but they do have more students that two current members (Wheeling and D&E).
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Wheeling is definitely in trouble. Since the Catholic Church backed out financing I can't imagine them surviving much longer. Lot of propaganda saying they are not, but when you start to read those articles you know the end is near.
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(it turns out that football attendance isn't the only number schools overstate)
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As you can imagine, a lot of schools greatly exaggerate their advertised/published enrollment numbers. You can check out the Department of Education's official numbers for each school at the link below.
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Enrollment per MEC school:
Concord- 2,800
D&E- 805
Fairmont State- 4,100
Frostburg State- 5,294
Glenville- 2,000
Point Park- 3,300
Charleston- 2,300
West Liberty- 2,776
West Virginia State- 3,000
West Virginia Wesleyan- 1,400
Wheeling- 1,171
As of 2022, per Data USA, Salem is reported to have 984 students.
Wheeling has been rumored to be in trouble. Nobody ever knows what is going on with WVW, but I can't imagine they are doing fantastic either. Will be interesting to follow the MEC over the next 3-5 years with so many schools facing similar difficulties. Rumors of the PSAC looking to poach as well either Frosburg/Fairmont or West Lib. Who knows...
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Salem may not be a perfect addition, but they do have more students that two current members (Wheeling and D&E).
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Salem has bounced around in different athletic conferences and has had a number of name changes. They are not exactly stable, and have approximately 250 students on campus. I really don't understand how they stay open.
I don't think the Mountain East wants anything to do with them.
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Originally posted by Finchwidget View PostApologies for bumping an old thread, but Salem has been releasing some of their athletic schedules, and although neither side has said anything, it would seem that the MEC quietly extended the scheduling agreement they had with them after Alderson Broaddus's departure into the 2024-25 season, as their schedules appear to be very MEC heavy again.
On the surface it would seem that this was done out of convenience to account for NDCs closure, but something about it seems a bit off to me... The agreement last year was largely because AB was a mess and closed only weeks before the fall season was about to begin, but NDC closed with decent enough time that the MEC front office probably could've reworked the schedules if they wanted to. Part of me is thinking that it's possible this might be a prelude to Salem actually joining the MEC... Or it could just be the front office/teams not wanting the hassle of reworking all the schedules and seeing an easy fix, and I'm just overthinking.
Then, the MEC can explore the other expansion options whether that be Bluefield State, WV Tech, Bluefield (VA), Pikeville, Rio Grande, etc.
Another fun factoid: Salem has also been posting historic schedules, including football. Every season they played from 1940 through 1988 (when they dropped the team) is posted here along with some old game programs and media guides: https://salemtigers.com/sports/2015/...223153057.aspxLast edited by Uindy18; 07-17-2024, 07:24 PM.
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NDC AD Scott Swain kind of quietly shifted over to Point Park in January (the same week that PP was announced as being invited to join the MEC). He was officially announced as the PP AD in April. He seems intent on building a more-complete Athletic Dept. PP has recently announced the addition of Mens and Womens Lacrosse; and also, Mens and Womens Wrestling.
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Originally posted by Ram040506 View Post
I'm thinking it's the latter and overthinking it. It's hard enough to get schedules filled out, and if there is a quick fix available for the problem, I'm sure they all jumped at it.
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Originally posted by Finchwidget View PostApologies for bumping an old thread, but Salem has been releasing some of their athletic schedules, and although neither side has said anything, it would seem that the MEC quietly extended the scheduling agreement they had with them after Alderson Broaddus's departure into the 2024-25 season, as their schedules appear to be very MEC heavy again.
On the surface it would seem that this was done out of convenience to account for NDCs closure, but something about it seems a bit off to me... The agreement last year was largely because AB was a mess and closed only weeks before the fall season was about to begin, but NDC closed with decent enough time that the MEC front office probably could've reworked the schedules if they wanted to. Part of me is thinking that it's possible this might be a prelude to Salem actually joining the MEC... Or it could just be the front office/teams not wanting the hassle of reworking all the schedules and seeing an easy fix, and I'm just overthinking.
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Apologies for bumping an old thread, but Salem has been releasing some of their athletic schedules, and although neither side has said anything, it would seem that the MEC quietly extended the scheduling agreement they had with them after Alderson Broaddus's departure into the 2024-25 season, as their schedules appear to be very MEC heavy again.
On the surface it would seem that this was done out of convenience to account for NDCs closure, but something about it seems a bit off to me... The agreement last year was largely because AB was a mess and closed only weeks before the fall season was about to begin, but NDC closed with decent enough time that the MEC front office probably could've reworked the schedules if they wanted to. Part of me is thinking that it's possible this might be a prelude to Salem actually joining the MEC... Or it could just be the front office/teams not wanting the hassle of reworking all the schedules and seeing an easy fix, and I'm just overthinking.
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Originally posted by EastStroud13 View PostHonestly, I think the MEC should lean into being a strong basketball conference, that also has football, especially if they lose Frostburg. Point Park is a great add for this.
The PSAC has a LOT of dead basketball weight, and it hurt the conference when it came to playoff selections. The MEC is already the best basketball conference top to bottom in the region, and a couple more good adds could make you dominant. Football has a much tougher path after losing NDC.
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