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  • RockNation
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    Theres a lot of politics involved with the football program. It is toxic and it's also why kids in the community don't play. Basically board members want to be the ones to say they are the reason for the turn around and have their hands in it all. But they've been the reason the program sucks. They need to give head coach full control and let it be.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

    They've been bad for a long time.
    Last winning season was in 1997. QB that year was Troy Nunes.

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  • Fightingscot82
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    Originally posted by IUPMonk View Post
    My nephew played at Butler 14-17. The underlying theme always was the majority of kids who were coming out to play football just wanted to wear the jersey and strut around the school hall on game day. There were just a handful of kids who were willing to put in the sweat equity or who could get by in HS with natural talent to produce winning teams and certainly not enough to carry the team to even a .500 season. That snow balled into where they are now.
    They've been bad for a long time.

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  • IUPMonk
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    My nephew played at Butler 14-17. The underlying theme always was the majority of kids who were coming out to play football just wanted to wear the jersey and strut around the school hall on game day. There were just a handful of kids who were willing to put in the sweat equity or who could get by in HS with natural talent to produce winning teams and certainly not enough to carry the team to even a .500 season. That snow balled into where they are now.

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  • Fightingscot82
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    They likely want to leave so they can quit geeting their brains beat in every Friday night. This will let them schedule some cupcakes, etc. The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review has a good article on it today.

    Oddly Butler has the third largest enrollment in the state ... but they've been awful for a very long time.
    A lotta poor kids who can't afford to play youth football. But also probably a poor youth football program.

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  • IUP CRIMSON HAWKS
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Joey Yellens has transferred to Pitt from Arizona State.

    As a freshman QB this past season he made on start (USC) and completed 28 of 44 attempts for 292 yards and 4 TDs.

    He will start classes at Pitt on Monday.

    Pitt has petitioned the NCAA for immediate eligibility. We'll see.

    He was ranked the No. 22 pro-style QB in the country in the class of 2019.
    That could be a good get! Maybe they would want to play Pickett next year and redshirt Yellens and start him in 2021. We'll see how it all plays out I guess.

    Don't sleep on Pitt in 2020.

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  • Ship69
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    They likely want to leave so they can quit geeting their brains beat in every Friday night. This will let them schedule some cupcakes, etc. The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review has a good article on it today.

    Oddly Butler has the third largest enrollment in the state ... but they've been awful for a very long time.
    Altoona has gotten to the same point. They were getting pounded in the Mid-Penn, went back to the WPIAL and got pounded, now have moved back to the Mid-Penn where they're getting pounded in the Mid-Penn Commonwealth again. They don't have a lot of options as they're a big school in the middle of a bunch of small ones. State College is in a similar situation, but has produced much better teams than Altoona.

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  • IUPNation
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    They likely want to leave so they can quit geeting their brains beat in every Friday night. This will let them schedule some cupcakes, etc. The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review has a good article on it today.

    Oddly Butler has the third largest enrollment in the state ... but they've been awful for a very long time.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Joey Yellens has transferred to Pitt from Arizona State.

    As a freshman QB this past season he made on start (USC) and completed 28 of 44 attempts for 292 yards and 4 TDs.

    He will start classes at Pitt on Monday.

    Pitt has petitioned the NCAA for immediate eligibility. We'll see.

    He was ranked the No. 22 pro-style QB in the country in the class of 2019.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post

    Why do they feel it would be better to be independent?

    Also, what does leaving the WPIAL mean? I thought the WPIAL was just the PIAA District 7. Does the WPIAL have additional requirements that don't exist in other PIAA Districts?
    They likely want to leave so they can quit geeting their brains beat in every Friday night. This will let them schedule some cupcakes, etc. The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review has a good article on it today.

    Oddly Butler has the third largest enrollment in the state ... but they've been awful for a very long time.

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  • iupgroundhog
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Butler has opted to leave the WPIAL in football and play an independent schedule.

    Seems the Golden Tornado grew tired of being the 6A Golden Tomato Can.
    Why do they feel it would be better to be independent?

    Also, what does leaving the WPIAL mean? I thought the WPIAL was just the PIAA District 7. Does the WPIAL have additional requirements that don't exist in other PIAA Districts?

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Butler has opted to leave the WPIAL in football and play an independent schedule.

    Seems the Golden Tornado grew tired of being the 6A Golden Tomato Can.

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  • Ship69
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    Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

    First time I recall ever hearing an F bomb was my uncle using his pet name for them haha. There's obvious history there and they're still a strong team but as long as polls are voted on by people whose paychecks depend on the Notre Dame contract I expect them to be overrated.
    I grew up in the Chicago area, where Notre Dame is either worshipped or hated. There is little middle ground.

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  • Fightingscot82
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    Originally posted by Ship69 View Post

    There are plenty of boomers, including this one, who aren't big fans of Notre Dame.
    First time I recall ever hearing an F bomb was my uncle using his pet name for them haha. There's obvious history there and they're still a strong team but as long as polls are voted on by people whose paychecks depend on the Notre Dame contract I expect them to be overrated.

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  • Ship69
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    Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

    I'm not even sure that's a true statement anymore. I think they're artificially elevated by NBC and other boomers still voting in the polls and given a full playoff would go the way of Nebraska and Penn State.
    There are plenty of boomers, including this one, who aren't big fans of Notre Dame.

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