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  • IUP24
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    Originally posted by Matt Burglund View Post
    If I did a shot every time y'all took a thread and veered off on to kickoff times, I'd have been on the floor a long, long time ago.

    Anyway ...



    Traditionally, IUP homecoming is almost always the first or second weekend of October. (Read on for the "almost" part).

    The PSAC makes the football schedule, so IUP looks at the schedule, sees which of those weekends IUP is home, and you have homecoming. The only time that might not be true is if IUP is scheduled to be home both weeks (then IUP would choose, but I doubt it would be based solely on who the opponent is, since the Alumni office is really the ones driving that ship) or if IUP is away both weeks, and they have to find another weekend, like the third one in October.

    Here are recent homeciming dates:
    2019: 10/5
    2018: 10/6
    2017: 10/7
    2016: 10/15 (Oct. 1 was first home game, which is always HoF weekend. First 3 games were away.)
    2015: 10/3
    2014: 10/11
    2013: 10/5
    2012: 10/6
    2011: 10/1
    2010: 10/9
    And as you've seen on here before, Matt, we also veer off into discussions about how awful the PSAC's schedule making ability is lol. And yes, I'm aware it's all supposed to be random.

    The fact that they get stuck playing Cal/SRU back to back every year is absurd. Same thing with Clarion. Every year, they play Cal, SRU, and IUP in consecutive weeks. Every other year, SRU gets BOTH of the Cal/IUP games at home (which also means they play them both on the road the following year).

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by Matt Burglund View Post
    If I did a shot every time y'all took a thread and veered off on to kickoff times, I'd have been on the floor a long, long time ago.

    Anyway ...



    Traditionally, IUP homecoming is almost always the first or second weekend of October. (Read on for the "almost" part).

    The PSAC makes the football schedule, so IUP looks at the schedule, sees which of those weekends IUP is home, and you have homecoming. The only time that might not be true is if IUP is scheduled to be home both weeks (then IUP would choose, but I doubt it would be based solely on who the opponent is, since the Alumni office is really the ones driving that ship) or if IUP is away both weeks, and they have to find another weekend, like the third one in October.

    Here are recent homeciming dates:
    2019: 10/5
    2018: 10/6
    2017: 10/7
    2016: 10/15 (Oct. 1 was first home game, which is always HoF weekend. First 3 games were away.)
    2015: 10/3
    2014: 10/11
    2013: 10/5
    2012: 10/6
    2011: 10/1
    2010: 10/9
    We veer off to them because they suck. Year after year. Pretty simple.

    Hopefully Todd (a younger AD) realizes it.

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  • Matt Burglund
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    If I did a shot every time y'all took a thread and veered off on to kickoff times, I'd have been on the floor a long, long time ago.

    Anyway ...

    Originally posted by IUP24 View Post
    They're too concerned about always scheduling Cal and/or SRU for Homecoming most years.
    Traditionally, IUP homecoming is almost always the first or second weekend of October. (Read on for the "almost" part).

    The PSAC makes the football schedule, so IUP looks at the schedule, sees which of those weekends IUP is home, and you have homecoming. The only time that might not be true is if IUP is scheduled to be home both weeks (then IUP would choose, but I doubt it would be based solely on who the opponent is, since the Alumni office is really the ones driving that ship) or if IUP is away both weeks, and they have to find another weekend, like the third one in October.

    Here are recent homeciming dates:
    2019: 10/5
    2018: 10/6
    2017: 10/7
    2016: 10/15 (Oct. 1 was first home game, which is always HoF weekend. First 3 games were away.)
    2015: 10/3
    2014: 10/11
    2013: 10/5
    2012: 10/6
    2011: 10/1
    2010: 10/9
    Last edited by Matt Burglund; 04-04-2020, 04:30 PM.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by IUP CRIMSON HAWKS View Post

    That first game of the 2014 season also featured the U.S. Army Golden Knights elite parachute team. They brought some people to the game as well.

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    I remember that game. St. Augustine's almost cancelled two days before over a lack of travel money.

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  • IUP CRIMSON HAWKS
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    Originally posted by IUP24 View Post

    Just thinking about when I was in school, the only noon kicks that had any life were the 2012 PSAC Championship Game and the opener of the 2014 season when we had the Hawk's Nest firing on all cylinders. Otherwise... Nothing

    My freshman year, the Thursday night game against Bloomsburg sticks out. But again, Thursday night. I wasn't at the game, but the 2015 Cal game played under the lights was said to be a great atmosphere. They're too concerned about always scheduling Cal and/or SRU for Homecoming most years (and I get that the point in the season when they play those two games every year is ideal for scheduling homecoming). I wish they would schedule an SRU game at night. They scheduled homecoming this year against SRU the same weekend that Pitt plays ND at home.
    That first game of the 2014 season also featured the U.S. Army Golden Knights elite parachute team. They brought some people to the game as well.

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  • IUP CRIMSON HAWKS
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    Originally posted by IUPMonk View Post
    Night games make a long day for the coaches. I don't think they particularly like 4pm or 6pm kicks let alone a night game.
    Well, boo freaking hoo. Let them go out and sell insurance then. It's a part of their job description to play the games when and wherever they may be. The good of the university and the community should supersede their own personal comfort and wishes.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by IUP24 View Post

    Just thinking about when I was in school, the only noon kicks that had any life were the 2012 PSAC Championship Game and the opener of the 2014 season when we had the Hawk's Nest firing on all cylinders. Otherwise... Nothing

    My freshman year, the Thursday night game against Bloomsburg sticks out. But again, Thursday night. I wasn't at the game, but the 2015 Cal game played under the lights was said to be a great atmosphere. They're too concerned about always scheduling Cal and/or SRU for Homecoming most years (and I get that the point in the season when they play those two games every year is ideal for scheduling homecoming). I wish they would schedule an SRU game at night. They scheduled homecoming this year against SRU the same weekend that Pitt plays ND at home.
    Never understood that theory. Homecoming will be a big gate regardless who you play. Play a jabroni program on HC. You'll get big gates for Cal or SRU regardless the date.

    Make HC againt an opponent who typically gets a terrible gate ... Clarion, SH, Boro.

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  • IUP24
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    But IUP is the only school who will play all night basketball games. And, that's even when the weather is typically bad for travel. They had more than double the next team's home attendance average this season (and by averaging more than 2,000 per game ... Joe out drew many (most) football teams in the league. In fact, Joe had a bigger gate than Tort more than once. He has the premier program at IUP right now (for a while now, actually). But, that's a different topic.

    I don't think we're asking for 3 of 5 home games at night. But, at least one a year. The employees know what they are signing up for when they take the job. They can quit. Ticket takers, hot dog servers and ushers who don't 'ush' a thing aren't hard to replace. The staff can suck it up for a game.

    Tort rambles all the time about wanting livlier crowds. List the last 10 lively crowds at Miller. A pattern may emerge.

    Lordy, they spent a fortune updating those fancy new lights last year. That was a lot of money for Johnny Local to walk on the track on Tuesday night.

    One night game a year. That's not asking much.

    I still push for a yearly Thursday night game, too. Friday is off limits. The PSAC would never compete with the Yinzer WPIAL. Saturday has a lot of competition -- Pitt, PSU, WVU, OSU, etc.
    Just thinking about when I was in school, the only noon kicks that had any life were the 2012 PSAC Championship Game and the opener of the 2014 season when we had the Hawk's Nest firing on all cylinders. Otherwise... Nothing

    My freshman year, the Thursday night game against Bloomsburg sticks out. But again, Thursday night. I wasn't at the game, but the 2015 Cal game played under the lights was said to be a great atmosphere. They're too concerned about always scheduling Cal and/or SRU for Homecoming most years (and I get that the point in the season when they play those two games every year is ideal for scheduling homecoming). I wish they would schedule an SRU game at night. They scheduled homecoming this year against SRU the same weekend that Pitt plays ND at home.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

    Goes back to my same grumble: is the football game a job function of several university employees or is it a major community event that wants to attract the best possible crowd?
    But IUP is the only school who will play all night basketball games. And, that's even when the weather is typically bad for travel. They had more than double the next team's home attendance average this season (and by averaging more than 2,000 per game ... Joe out drew many (most) football teams in the league. In fact, Joe had a bigger gate than Tort more than once. He has the premier program at IUP right now (for a while now, actually). But, that's a different topic.

    I don't think we're asking for 3 of 5 home games at night. But, at least one a year. The employees know what they are signing up for when they take the job. They can quit. Ticket takers, hot dog servers and ushers who don't 'ush' a thing aren't hard to replace. The staff can suck it up for a game.

    Tort rambles all the time about wanting livlier crowds. List the last 10 lively crowds at Miller. A pattern may emerge.

    Lordy, they spent a fortune updating those fancy new lights last year. That was a lot of money for Johnny Local to walk on the track on Tuesday night.

    One night game a year. That's not asking much.

    I still push for a yearly Thursday night game, too. Friday is off limits. The PSAC would never compete with the Yinzer WPIAL. Saturday has a lot of competition -- Pitt, PSU, WVU, OSU, etc.

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  • Fightingscot82
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    Originally posted by IUPMonk View Post
    Night games make a long day for the coaches. I don't think they particularly like 4pm or 6pm kicks let alone a night game.
    Goes back to my same grumble: is the football game a job function of several university employees or is it a major community event that wants to attract the best possible crowd?

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  • IUPMonk
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    Originally posted by IUP CRIMSON HAWKS View Post

    IUP just doesn't seem to get it. Why did they put the lights up if they never want to play night games. It's been one asinine decision after another down there. You could play night games on Thursday, Friday, or Saturday nights. What is the problem here? Noon kickoffs generate zero excitement at IUP.

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    Night games make a long day for the coaches. I don't think they particularly like 4pm or 6pm kicks let alone a night game.

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  • IUP CRIMSON HAWKS
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post


    All three games you just mentioned were played under the lights. It's just a different experience. Better atmosphere. More lively.

    I'd love to see IUP play one home Thursday night and one Saturday night home game every season -- especially now with the $50/spot tailgaiting 'officially' permitted.

    Todd (new AD) is pretty in to the atmosphere of the event. The first season under his watch the men's basketball team had some of the best crowds ever in the KCAC this past season. I'm pretty much expecting, from what I've heard, for them to start playing at least one night game per season.
    The night games are absolutely so highly memorable. People are up for them and they love them. We could have even mentioned the 2006 night game at Miller between IUP and Rock. Kevin Weidl's last gasp drive just came up short at the end. There was a great atmosphere for that one as well.

    IUP just doesn't seem to get it. Why did they put the lights up if they never want to play night games. It's been one asinine decision after another down there. You could play night games on Thursday, Friday, or Saturday nights. What is the problem here? Noon kickoffs generate zero excitement at IUP.

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  • Matt Burglund
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    Originally posted by Ram040506 View Post
    Although they leave a sour taste, they still are great games when you have 2 good teams going at it. Shepherd and IUP have had some classics that I hope would be on your IUP all time list (that 9-6 game comes to mind, amongst others.)
    You're looking at it objectively, and also as a fan of the team that has won 4 of the 5 all-time meetings ;).

    I was asked by the IUP Sports Information office to give my list. It made no sense to me to put losses on my list, so I didn't. I'll stand by that, considering this is a list being compiled by and released by the IUP Sports Information office.

    If I were making a list for the newspaper, I would have done it differently. The 18-15 loss to Cal in 2010 would have made it for sure.

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  • Ram040506
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    Originally posted by Matt Burglund View Post

    What released list? IUP has announced 10, 9 and 8 and they’re all wins.

    There weren't rules to this. To me, a game you lose is not a good game. That's why I didn't pick any losses.

    But if I were to include losses on my list, I would not include the West Florida game. IUP went down 24-0, couldn't stop the run, had too many turnovers and couldn't throw the ball when they had to. Not one of their better days.
    Although they leave a sour taste, they still are great games when you have 2 good teams going at it. Shepherd and IUP have had some classics that I hope would be on your IUP all time list (that 9-6 game comes to mind, amongst others.)

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by IUP CRIMSON HAWKS View Post

    Excellent work here, IUP24!!! Fab list and terrific write up on each game.

    I want to say that the IUP-Cal game in 2015 was played on October 17. It was C-O-L-D that night. Thankfully I caught the game on the road with a good heater blowing warm air. It just seemed to have such a fantastic ambience to it. Night game. Frigid. Two great rivals going at it. And yes, that was the game that something really bad must have happened to Homer to cause his anti-Lenny wrath for years. Lenny probably still calls him BURNT TOAST! LOL.

    I might put the Ashland game at #1. I believe that Damon Lloyd #50 was the one who changed the trajectory of that game with an absolutely crunching hit on the Ashland QB. He wasn't the same guy after that one.

    I think that one game I would at least give honorable mention to was the 2011 night game at Miller against Bloom. It was on national television and even though IUP did lose it served as ample proof that IUP football was officially resurrected under the command of new skipper Curt Cignetti. I recall that being the game that I KNEW IUP football really was back and it was a very exciting time.

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    All three games you just mentioned were played under the lights. It's just a different experience. Better atmosphere. More lively.

    I'd love to see IUP play one home Thursday night and one Saturday night home game every season -- especially now with the $50/spot tailgaiting 'officially' permitted.

    Todd (new AD) is pretty in to the atmosphere of the event. The first season under his watch the men's basketball team had some of the best crowds ever in the KCAC this past season. I'm pretty much expecting, from what I've heard, for them to start playing at least one night game per season.

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