PASSHE Institutions Merging

[IUPNation]

Cheyney may the only (then) PSAC I haven't been to for a game.

As I recall their football field was pretty rough, correct?

Yeah...the stadium is rough and the campus was pretty worn down the last time I was there. I don't really have any reason to go on it but i do drive near it going to and from work. The last time I was at Cheyney was the last time IUP made a visit.

It's in an affluent area. Any developer would be licking their chops to get that land....since a lot of land between West Chester and Newtown Square is protected and not able to be developed. The former Edgemont Country Club was the last big swath of land that was up for sale in the general area and they are building nice high priced single homes and townhomes on the land. Housing in the Western Suburbs of Philadelphia is still in high demand...

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Cheyney is probably the most valuable land right now. They could knock that whole campus down and build a nice planned community...and it would sell out fast.

It's very prime real estate in highly desirable area.

Cheyney may the only (then) PSAC I haven't been to for a game.

As I recall their football field was pretty rough, correct?

[IUPNation]

AB is (was) so remote. I'm sure buyers weren't exactly lining up.

If some our our schools ever get to that point ... it would be interesting. Not exactly booming commercial real estate markets in places like Clarion, Mansfield, etc.

It almost makes me think about what these mega Olympic sites look like 10 years after the games.

Cheyney is probably the most valuable land right now. They could knock that whole campus down and build a nice planned community...and it would sell out fast.

It's very prime real estate in highly desirable area.

[IUPNation]

Actually, she went to IUP. LOL. Hey, any school crank out some beauts.

I knew that was going to be the answer when I asked it.

[Ship69]

Did she go to Slimey Pebble?

:-)

Actually, she went to IUP. LOL. Hey, any school crank out some beauts.

[Fightingscot82]

AB is (was) so remote. I'm sure buyers weren't exactly lining up.

If some our our schools ever get to that point ... it would be interesting. Not exactly booming commercial real estate markets in places like Clarion, Mansfield, etc.

It almost makes me think about what these mega Olympic sites look like 10 years after the games.

I'd compare it to Mansfield. Remote surrounded by not much and what was there was economically depressed.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

The Alderson Broaddus campus sold for $5 million. Pennies on the dollar. All the "stuff" gets auctioned off at a later date.

https://www.wvnews.com/business/elki...08fa63141.html

That's not a lot of money to recoup against the debt burden on the struggling PASSHE campuses.

AB is (was) so remote. I'm sure buyers weren't exactly lining up.

If some our our schools ever get to that point ... it would be interesting. Not exactly booming commercial real estate markets in places like Clarion, Mansfield, etc.

It almost makes me think about what these mega Olympic sites look like 10 years after the games.

[Fightingscot82]

Here is an article from the IG regarding Shapiro's higher ed plan. Hopefully, you can navigate the paywall

https://www.indianagazette.com/news/shapiro-proposes-bringing-together-passhe-community-colleges/article_d32a05ef-4bf3-5bac-aff4-f7f39683fe34.html#tncms-source=login

The reactions from the state rep from Indiana and the other Republicans blow me away. They simply never grasp that spending for education is an investment. If the PA economy needs anything, it needs this. The PA Republicans thinking is so disappointing and misguided.

Having grown up in Lock Haven and attending college in Indiana, I read these local papers online. All you ever see on the pages is about some organization receiving a government grant for this or that and they are so happy. Yet, this grant money to help bad local economies like Lock Haven and Indiana is made possible by Democrats. The locals still vote Republican. Go figure.

Sorry for the politics but it is too intertwined with the topic to ignore.

You're right though. Pittman is bullish on giving IUP more funding, then just days later celebrates landing $2 million for the IUP med school.

[IUPNation]

The Alderson Broaddus campus sold for $5 million. Pennies on the dollar. All the "stuff" gets auctioned off at a later date.

https://www.wvnews.com/business/elki...08fa63141.html

That's not a lot of money to recoup against the debt burden on the struggling PASSHE campuses.

I doesn’t help when the school is located in a town nobody is flocking to move to…

Cheyney would fetch a nice haul.

[Fightingscot82]

The Alderson Broaddus campus sold for $5 million. Pennies on the dollar. All the "stuff" gets auctioned off at a later date.

https://www.wvnews.com/business/elki...08fa63141.html

That's not a lot of money to recoup against the debt burden on the struggling PASSHE campuses.

[IUPNation]

I sit on a couple of scholarship committees for my local Rotary Club and have the same argument every year with the Chamber of Commerce office manager. She's one of those all-too-common types these days who basically think college should be some sort of glorified technical school. She simply can't see the use for philosophy, ethics, music appreciation, lit — courses that broaden your horizons and help teach you how to think and communicate. She has a college degree, and I think that insitution failed her as she really doesn't have a grasp of what constitutes a college education. I wholeheartedly agree that not everyone should go to college and I think we need better tech schools for those so inclined.

Then of course we have the unrelenting attack on public schools by those who want to insert the culture wars and their brand of religion into education I have always been foolish enough to think that religion was best left to churches. School prayer would have been a tough call at my elementary school, where 50 percent of the students were Jewish. I think it was Jesus who had something to say about people who make a point of praying in public.

Did she go to Slimey Pebble?

:-)

[EastStroud13]

I wonder if that means Cleveland State might get a football team and play at ND's stadium. Cleveland State is getting pretty big.

That would be an interesting development. There will certainly be space in the NEC if they ever wanted to join as an affiliate, or they could make the Pioneer a 12-team league.

[Ship69]

Here is an article from the IG regarding Shapiro's higher ed plan. Hopefully, you can navigate the paywall

https://www.indianagazette.com/news/shapiro-proposes-bringing-together-passhe-community-colleges/article_d32a05ef-4bf3-5bac-aff4-f7f39683fe34.html#tncms-source=login

The reactions from the state rep from Indiana and the other Republicans blow me away. They simply never grasp that spending for education is an investment. If the PA economy needs anything, it needs this. The PA Republicans thinking is so disappointing and misguided.

Having grown up in Lock Haven and attending college in Indiana, I read these local papers online. All you ever see on the pages is about some organization receiving a government grant for this or that and they are so happy. Yet, this grant money to help bad local economies like Lock Haven and Indiana is made possible by Democrats. The locals still vote Republican. Go figure.

Sorry for the politics but it is too intertwined with the topic to ignore.

I sit on a couple of scholarship committees for my local Rotary Club and have the same argument every year with the Chamber of Commerce office manager. She's one of those all-too-common types these days who basically think college should be some sort of glorified technical school. She simply can't see the use for philosophy, ethics, music appreciation, lit — courses that broaden your horizons and help teach you how to think and communicate. She has a college degree, and I think that insitution failed her as she really doesn't have a grasp of what constitutes a college education. I wholeheartedly agree that not everyone should go to college and I think we need better tech schools for those so inclined.

Then of course we have the unrelenting attack on public schools by those who want to insert the culture wars and their brand of religion into education I have always been foolish enough to think that religion was best left to churches. School prayer would have been a tough call at my elementary school, where 50 percent of the students were Jewish. I think it was Jesus who had something to say about people who make a point of praying in public.

[iupgroundhog]

Notre Dame College in talks to merge with Cleveland State. That's a new one - a public absorbing a private.

Notre Dame has lost half its enrollment since 2014.

I wonder if that means Cleveland State might get a football team and play at ND's stadium. Cleveland State is getting pretty big.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Notre Dame College in talks to merge with Cleveland State. That's a new one - a public absorbing a private.

Notre Dame has lost half its enrollment since 2014.

It's basically become what was Urbana. Athletics are the only thing keeping the lights on (for now).