PASSHE Institutions Merging

[Fightingscot82]

Better be getting quite a chunk of aid if you're going to Pepperdine, which was in the $70,000-$80,000 range last time I looked, not to mention the cost of getting out there and back. The charms of Alabama are certainly lost on me. As far as going to state schools, Pennsylvania's tuitions are relatively high compared to other states.

Average net price after university discounts at Pepperdine is $37,161. That's pricey for PA but not by Malibu standards.

For PASSHE, the average student pays $18,250 and our students are far more likely to get federal & state grants than those attending Pepperdine. I just spent some time in New York near a SUNY school. With all the tax revenue of New York State, their average net price is $18,140. Granted, if your 2019 AGI is under $125k (probably many attending SUNY Fredonia) and you attend full time and can average earning 30 credits a year, your base tuition is covered. I don't believe the program has had the desired effect on SUNY enrollment as hoped.

This chart is largely the same for all PASSHE schools, so don't show this chart to the Gannon fans on this board...

[Ship69]

Better be getting quite a chunk of aid if you're going to Pepperdine, which was in the $70,000-$80,000 range last time I looked, not to mention the cost of getting out there and back. The charms of Alabama are certainly lost on me. As far as going to state schools, Pennsylvania's tuitions are relatively high compared to other states.

[Fightingscot82]

The schools you are naming (mostly) are not cheap -- especially being from PA.

So, I'd guess the kids you are referring to are likely from upper-class families and money isn't a big issue. Many 'affluent' people would (do) tend to look down upon 'state schools' and see our schools as beneath them.

Certainly, WVU isn't an academic haven, but it does have that 'big school' vibe to it -- albeit being in Morgantown. It's funny ... some kids will pick a school just to have those fall football Saturdays (and all that comes along with them). I'm not sure many of our students know we have football programs.

Yep. Pepperdine's main draws are location (Malibu) and its quasi-BS crazy Christian philosophy. They're Grove City & Hillsdale Lite - they play along to get federal financial aid eligibility but use statements of faith to screen students & employees.

WVU's general freshman admissions profile puts it in line with the PSAC schools. A lot of midwest flagships do as well. But since WVU is the flagship they have a law school & med school that boost enrollment, revenue, and their academic profile. Take the party out of going to WVU and there's not much going for it. Morgantown is ugly and the campus is in 3 different locations around town connected by a 70s tram or lots of traffic.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

The schools you are naming (mostly) are not cheap -- especially being from PA.

So, I'd guess the kids you are referring to are likely from upper-class families and money isn't a big issue. Many 'affluent' people would (do) tend to look down upon 'state schools' and see our schools as beneath them.

Certainly, WVU isn't an academic haven, but it does have that 'big school' vibe to it -- albeit being in Morgantown. It's funny ... some kids will pick a school just to have those fall football Saturdays (and all that comes along with them). I'm not sure many of our students know we have football programs.

[Fightingscot82]

The New IUP Rule should be IUP getting the most money.

Think of it as reparations for the old IUP Rule.

IUP should be the biggest university in PASSHE if they want the biggest chunk of money. Instead Music Teacher U is moving toward being smaller than Gym Teacher U.

[IUPNation]

[IUPNation]

Read his post again. It's how much more each school is getting compared to last year.



IUP gets $72 million in state budget, federal COVID funds

The New IUP Rule should be IUP getting the most money.

Think of it as reparations for the old IUP Rule.

[Matt Burglund]

Read his post again. It's how much more each school is getting compared to last year.



IUP gets $72 million in state budget, federal COVID funds

[IUPbigINDIANS]

I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere and I guess it is what it is but the direction also implies lower academic standards. Just sayin'.

Edit: Or I should say "even" lower academic standards.

If you can pay the bill in one way or another you are admitted. That's basically the application process now.

[only1]

Great PR and shows the true strength of the PASSHE student athletes possibilities....

2015 Woman of the Year diving into medical career
https://www.ncaa.org/news/2022/8/9/f...Go6F99XHrdq6G4

[Feedoggie]

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It should be. After all, it's

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[only1]

A good investment in state universities - Opinion

https://www.timesobserver.com/opinio...-universities/

[Fightingscot82]

I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere and I guess it is what it is but the direction also implies lower academic standards. Just sayin'.

Edit: Or I should say "even" lower academic standards.

Maybe? The academic profile of PASSHE is increasing but that's also in the hands of K-12 (teaching to SAT/ACT, grade inflation). Basically he's saying they're going to put possibly equal emphasis on adults in need of degrees or certificates.

Source: https://www.post-gazette.com/news/ed...s/202207210087

For the enrollment consultants, that was part of the PASSHE board of governors meeting yesterday. Agenda with financial info & strategic project info: https://www.passhe.edu/inside/BOG/BO...2%20Agenda.pdf

[iupgroundhog]

He made it clear that they're going to focus on non-traditional potential students:
- working adults who need brief skill-based courses (certificates & boot camps)
- adults with some college credits but no degree
- people who can only do online

I did see online that the system is going to hire enrollment consultants (I know, I know) who are going to help identify some strategies for the above groups but also identify ideal high school populations to target. Its not a thing that colleges usually do, but they really need to sell the price difference. There are a lot of modest & middle income families overpaying for heavily discounted private schools.

I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere and I guess it is what it is but the direction also implies lower academic standards. Just sayin'.

Edit: Or I should say "even" lower academic standards.

[Fightingscot82]

Pretty lofty goal considering the dismal demographics of Pa. high school enrollment for the next few years.

He made it clear that they're going to focus on non-traditional potential students:
- working adults who need brief skill-based courses (certificates & boot camps)
- adults with some college credits but no degree
- people who can only do online

I did see online that the system is going to hire enrollment consultants (I know, I know) who are going to help identify some strategies for the above groups but also identify ideal high school populations to target. Its not a thing that colleges usually do, but they really need to sell the price difference. There are a lot of modest & middle income families overpaying for heavily discounted private schools.