PASSHE Institutions Merging

[complaint_hopeful]

If that's the plan, they're running it into the ground on purpose. High school students don't want online and/or low frills. They want the outside the classroom just as much as the classroom.

My guess is that programs like English will be taught online and maybe physically at 1 campus. I don't see them offering the same classes at 3 physical locations, but I don't know.

To get to a 25% tuition reduction, you have to 1st break even, but then you have to shed a significant amount of expenses beyond that. I'd imagine that's faculty/staff. I don't see them maintaining the current level of faculty/staff and getting this reduction. Probably can't even break even that way.

We'll see. Time will tell I guess. We can see their objectives. The How is a but murky so we're speculating.

[Fightingscot82]

Yes - Cutting frills down to basics.

They talked about reducing campus footprint in one of those links.

If that's the plan, they're running it into the ground on purpose. High school students don't want online and/or low frills. They want the outside the classroom just as much as the classroom.

[Bart]

Edinboro president resigns. Cal president retires.

https://triblive.com/local/regional/...-merger-study/

[complaint_hopeful]

I've got to wonder about the effect this is having with current HS seniors. I don't know if my short list would include a school which might be facing merger.

I would think a certain percent wont want to. I dont know though. Tons of press out of this...both good and bad.

[jrshooter]

I've got to wonder about the effect this is having with current HS seniors. I don't know if my short list would include a school which might be facing merger.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

They have to be planning to lay off some decent percentage of employees to hit this goal.

That and perhaps 'lay off' some sports programs.

[complaint_hopeful]

Its essentially like some of the big community college systems in California.

They have to be planning to lay off some decent percentage of employees to hit this goal.

[ironmaniup]

https://www.calu.edu/news/2020/syste...-november.aspx

Its essentially like some of the big community college systems in California.

[complaint_hopeful]

https://www.calu.edu/news/2020/syste...-november.aspx

[Bart]

Just listened to a podcast that did a short segment on "stackable credentials." One thing that I didn't consider is that they can be industry specific. One industry they see rapidly changing is logistics. A logistics or supply chain certificate could give the minimal training needed for a delivery driver to transition to a supervisory role. I imagine this could also be done for manufacturing. North-Central PA is littered with small tool & die shops mostly staffed by workers without a college degree.

Bloom offers a degree in Supply Chain Management, so they can take that one.

[boatcapt]

Financial and geographic access are the #1 drivers of PASSHE enrollment.

I can't find the data to accurately cite, but most students attending PASSHE schools are from within 50-75 miles of campus. So when IUP cuts art programs that doesn't necessarily mean that Edinboro benefits. When Clarion and Edinboro cut music programs, the enrollment in music programs at IUP and Slippery Rock didn't increase.

The only variable that will increase enrollment is reducing cost (increasing the savings from state related branches and regional privates). Reducing locations will reduce enrollment.

Are they attending because they are the closest school to offer that degree or is it a burning desire to stay close to home? If the school within 50-75 miles didn't offer the degree they chose but one 150 miles away did, would they opt to go there instead?

[boatcapt]

"California, Clarion and Edinboro universities would function as a single unit specializing in online education, and Bloomsburg, Lock Haven and Mansfield would focus on stackable and nondegree credentials, PASSHE officials have said. "


https://www.educationdive.com/news/p...m-cuts/588220/

What would a nondegree credential include? EMT, CPR, fracking equipment, CDL, lifeguard certification? You don't need a university for certificates.

Hehehehehe...Just envisioned a 65 year old tenured professor "teaching" a class of 18'somthings how to use a torpedo buoy or how to break a death grip of a drowning victim!!

[boatcapt]

Oh, I think it's a great idea, enabling the schools to reach out and expand into the private sector/labor market as well as engage in cooperative arrangements with governmental and quasi-governmental groups. It's going to create revenue.

The other positive thing is, in most cases, the payer is the employer. It also fills a gap for unemployed, underemployed, displaced workers, etc. and the payer for that is the state of PA.

Offering technical credentials/certificates is a proven avenue to financial success...AND failure! Credential training is a CROWDED field that lives and dies largely on cost and duration of the training. I liken these courses sort of to "Community Education" classes at local CC's but with the benefit of a job related certification...I want to take a wine appreciation class but I'm not willing to pay MORE to attend school B over A OR take a 10 week course over a 2 week one.

[iupgroundhog]

Just listened to a podcast that did a short segment on "stackable credentials." One thing that I didn't consider is that they can be industry specific. One industry they see rapidly changing is logistics. A logistics or supply chain certificate could give the minimal training needed for a delivery driver to transition to a supervisory role. I imagine this could also be done for manufacturing. North-Central PA is littered with small tool & die shops mostly staffed by workers without a college degree.

Oh, I think it's a great idea, enabling the schools to reach out and expand into the private sector/labor market as well as engage in cooperative arrangements with governmental and quasi-governmental groups. It's going to create revenue.

The other positive thing is, in most cases, the payer is the employer. It also fills a gap for unemployed, underemployed, displaced workers, etc. and the payer for that is the state of PA.

[Fightingscot82]

Just listened to a podcast that did a short segment on "stackable credentials." One thing that I didn't consider is that they can be industry specific. One industry they see rapidly changing is logistics. A logistics or supply chain certificate could give the minimal training needed for a delivery driver to transition to a supervisory role. I imagine this could also be done for manufacturing. North-Central PA is littered with small tool & die shops mostly staffed by workers without a college degree.