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[CALUPA69]

That is editorial policy. Problem is that for the NYT and WAPO, the editorial policy has become the overriding policy of the various news departments.

Also worth noting that people present the NYT and WAPO as the bastion of journalistic integrity that is 100% accurate and unbiased in their reporting...Rarely have I heard of the NY Post and Washington Times presented is such a glowing journalistic light!

Also worth noting that the NYT and WAPO have OP-ED sections were they proport to present view points and opinions that run counter to the editorial policy of the paper. Clearly as documented by the Weiss and Bennet attacks and firing, even on the OP-ED page discenting opinions will NOT be tolerated! If you can't present a differing opinion on the actual page dedicated to differing opinions, what do you think the chances are of getting any stories, no matter how well sources, that run counter in the "main" body of the paper?? And reporter that might try to do that run the risk of verbal attack and professional castration from supposed collegues and perhaps even being fired by the paper's management.

As I indicated to consider this editorial direction, if it is the case, does not come close to making either of these papers "left wing" unless you are so far right it appears so from your prospective. They would never come close to endorsing the policies of the far left. Center left at the most and that is really very weak.

[iupgroundhog]

Yes I would...Just as I would publish any letter from a sitting congressman or senator provided that person is not advocating illegal activity, presenting lies or engaging in personal attacks. I think it is important to know what our politicans are thinking without the filter of what passes for journalism now days.

Do you think the Insurrection Act should be invoked to quell the riots, even though local authorities reject the use of the military in their jurisdictions?

[boatcapt]

oppress get the same rights As they take for granted, that somehow they lost something.

Ans yes your worthless party does hate us.

They already have the same constitutional rights as every American. If you believe your rights have been violated, take it to court and present your case.

[boatcapt]

That's ridiculous. The disparities have been confirmed in the court system over and over. They are simply asking for equality. Now answer my other question about the Tom Cotton op-ed. How would you have handled it?

And that is the proper venue if you feel your constitutional rights have been violated.

[boatcapt]

BoatCaptain, if you were in charge of the op-ed section of the NYT how would you have handled the Tom Cotton op-ed piece?

Yes I would...Just as I would publish any letter from a sitting congressman or senator provided that person is not advocating illegal activity, presenting lies or engaging in personal attacks. I think it is important to know what our politicans are thinking without the filter of what passes for journalism now days.

[iupgroundhog]

They aren't "defending their rights," they are asking for special consideration based solely on their sexual orientation.

That's ridiculous. The disparities have been confirmed in the court system over and over. They are simply asking for equality. Now answer my other question about the Tom Cotton op-ed. How would you have handled it?

[boatcapt]

Sorry, you appear inconsistent. You say all Americans have the same rights but when a group defends their rights you compare it to a 4 year old whining over not getting a toy. Really?

They aren't "defending their rights," they are asking for special consideration based solely on their sexual orientation.

[iupgroundhog]

All Americans have the same rights. They are contained in the first 10 amendments to the US Constitution. No were in those rights does it say that these do not apply to LGB, or ANY other group for that matter.

Sorry, you appear inconsistent. You say all Americans have the same rights but when a group defends their rights you compare it to a 4 year old whining over not getting a toy. Really?

[iupgroundhog]

"Current political climate" is the problem at the NYT and WAPO. Weather you like it or not, these two publications have become little more than left-wing editorial outlets that do not tolerate discenting views or opinions...in the news room, on social media and certainly not in actual stories. The unchecked attacks by fellow reporters on Weiss and the forced resignation of Bennet speak LOUDLY about the state of the current news room across the nation...Only one political view will be tolerated and if you stray from that, you open yourself up to personal attacks and run a real risk of being fired. If you are a report at the NYT, WAPO or almost any other news paper across the US and you have ANY "non-conforming" view points, EVERY day you go to work you are going into a hostile work environment.

Journalism, true journalism, is uncovering of facts, pro and con, and presenting them in context. If you ignore facts that don't conform with your view OR sque facts to to meet a particular purpose, you are not a journalist...you are an editorialist. And a paper that allows and often openly encourages this is not being fair and impartial in it's reporting regardless of it's public statements. That is what the NYT has allowed itself to become...little more that the unofficial propaganda outlet for the left-wing democratic socialist movement.

BoatCaptain, if you were in charge of the op-ed section of the NYT how would you have handled the Tom Cotton op-ed piece?

[IUPbigINDIANS]

"Current political climate" is the problem at the NYT and WAPO. Weather you like it or not, these two publications have become little more than left-wing editorial outlets that do not tolerate discenting views or opinions...in the news room, on social media and certainly not in actual stories. The unchecked attacks by fellow reporters on Weiss and the forced resignation of Bennet speak LOUDLY about the state of the current news room across the nation...Only one political view will be tolerated and if you stray from that, you open yourself up to personal attacks and run a real risk of being fired. If you are a report at the NYT, WAPO or almost any other news paper across the US and you have ANY "non-conforming" view points, EVERY day you go to work you are going into a hostile work environment.

Journalism, true journalism, is uncovering of facts, pro and con, and presenting them in context. If you ignore facts that don't conform with your view OR sque facts to to meet a particular purpose, you are not a journalist...you are an editorialist. And a paper that allows and often openly encourages this is not being fair and impartial in it's reporting regardless of it's public statements. That is what the NYT has allowed itself to become...little more that the unofficial propaganda outlet for the left-wing democratic socialist movement.

Journalism (true journalism as you called it) is long gone. It's boring. It's a click world now. What will get those clicks? Juice and more juice.

True news services - the few remaining - are walking the plank.

[boatcapt]

One sided editorial policies are common on both sides. Read the NY POST, WASHINGTON TIMES or WSJ for reference.

That is editorial policy. Problem is that for the NYT and WAPO, the editorial policy has become the overriding policy of the various news departments.

Also worth noting that people present the NYT and WAPO as the bastion of journalistic integrity that is 100% accurate and unbiased in their reporting...Rarely have I heard of the NY Post and Washington Times presented is such a glowing journalistic light!

Also worth noting that the NYT and WAPO have OP-ED sections were they proport to present view points and opinions that run counter to the editorial policy of the paper. Clearly as documented by the Weiss and Bennet attacks and firing, even on the OP-ED page discenting opinions will NOT be tolerated! If you can't present a differing opinion on the actual page dedicated to differing opinions, what do you think the chances are of getting any stories, no matter how well sources, that run counter in the "main" body of the paper?? And reporter that might try to do that run the risk of verbal attack and professional castration from supposed collegues and perhaps even being fired by the paper's management.

[CALUPA69]

"Current political climate" is the problem at the NYT and WAPO. Weather you like it or not, these two publications have become little more than left-wing editorial outlets that do not tolerate discenting views or opinions...in the news room, on social media and certainly not in actual stories. The unchecked attacks by fellow reporters on Weiss and the forced resignation of Bennet speak LOUDLY about the state of the current news room across the nation...Only one political view will be tolerated and if you stray from that, you open yourself up to personal attacks and run a real risk of being fired. If you are a report at the NYT, WAPO or almost any other news paper across the US and you have ANY "non-conforming" view points, EVERY day you go to work you are going into a hostile work environment.

One sided editorial policies are common on both sides. Read the NY POST, WASHINGTON TIMES or WSJ for reference.

[boatcapt]

You badly misread the current political climate if you perceive the NYT and WAPO as left wing. Maybe from a Trumpist pov they may appear left, but from the AOC/BERNIE wing those media are dead center. To suggest that JEFF BEZOS is anything but a thorough going capitalist is just silly.

"Current political climate" is the problem at the NYT and WAPO. Weather you like it or not, these two publications have become little more than left-wing editorial outlets that do not tolerate discenting views or opinions...in the news room, on social media and certainly not in actual stories. The unchecked attacks by fellow reporters on Weiss and the forced resignation of Bennet speak LOUDLY about the state of the current news room across the nation...Only one political view will be tolerated and if you stray from that, you open yourself up to personal attacks and run a real risk of being fired. If you are a report at the NYT, WAPO or almost any other news paper across the US and you have ANY "non-conforming" view points, EVERY day you go to work you are going into a hostile work environment.

Journalism, true journalism, is uncovering of facts, pro and con, and presenting them in context. If you ignore facts that don't conform with your view OR sque facts to to meet a particular purpose, you are not a journalist...you are an editorialist. And a paper that allows and often openly encourages this is not being fair and impartial in it's reporting regardless of it's public statements. That is what the NYT has allowed itself to become...little more that the unofficial propaganda outlet for the left-wing democratic socialist movement.

[CALUPA69]

Says a lot about you. The NYT and WAPO are shells of what they used to be and are living on reputation alone. I think Bari Weiss summed up the current political leaning and reporting of the NYT (https://www.bariweiss.com/resignation-letter ). Couple that with the forced resignation of Editorial Editor James Bennet in July of this year for having audacity to publish a letter from a US Senator ON THE OP-ED PAGE that ran counter to the political views of the Times staff and you start to get a flavor of the current political leaning and reporting at the NYT...Reporting only presents the left wing view and ANY discenting views will not be tolerated.

You badly misread the current political climate if you perceive the NYT and WAPO as left wing. Maybe from a Trumpist pov they may appear left, but from the AOC/BERNIE wing those media are dead center. To suggest that JEFF BEZOS is anything but a thorough going capitalist is just silly.

[boatcapt]

All Americans have the same rights. They are contained in the first 10 amendments to the US Constitution. No were in those rights does it say that these do not apply to LGB, or ANY other group for that matter.