OT: NFL

[EyeoftheHawk]

What you and I remember as 'Country Clubs' are quickly dying.

People our age aren't joining. The weekend warrior types are making some public courses financial boom towns. Play and be done. No monthly dinner spending requirements, etc.

It will be interesting to see if many long-standing clubs can remain private much longer. I'm not talking Oakmont types but those on the level of Indiana Country Club.

Based on what I’m seeing at Indiana CC, I agree. The full golf membership is too high for what you get and the social membership has little value. They just upped the monthly food minimum to $75 (was $50) and did it via a buried sentence in a video from the new club president and not a direct announcement to membership. Said it’s designed to get people to the club more often, LOL. The food is average and you can find better at area restaurants. Drinks are way over priced. Regular member activity there is light most days. As far as golf and the 19th hole goes, it’s livelier at the bar at Meadow Lane. Obviously not as “fancy” but way more fun. You can go to the frat party or the rich teenager’s birthday party.

I get it that joining a CC isn’t necessarily about value, but it’s not like Indiana or towns with clubs like it are loaded with movers and shakers that you need to build relationships with. I’ll bet the average age of the regulars at ICC is 70.

[IUPNation]

Based on what I’m seeing at Indiana CC, I agree. The full golf membership is too high for what you get and the social membership has little value. They just upped the monthly food minimum to $75 (was $50) and did it via a buried sentence in a video from the new club president and not a direct announcement to membership. Said it’s designed to get people to the club more often, LOL. The food is average and you can find better at area restaurants. Drinks are way over priced. Regular member activity there is light most days. As far as golf and the 19th hole goes, it’s livelier at the bar at Meadow Lane. Obviously not as “fancy” but way more fun. You can go to the frat party or the rich teenager’s birthday party.

I get it that joining a CC isn’t necessarily about value, but it’s not like Indiana or towns with clubs like it are loaded with movers and shakers that you need to build relationships with. I’ll bet the average age of the regulars at ICC is 70.

I was always kind of surprised Indiana had a Country Club.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

I was always kind of surprised Indiana had a Country Club.

There's a lot of money in Indiana (for its size).

There's two decent size banks HQ'd here plus the hospital. IUP also has some high-paying jobs.

There was enough to keep the country club doing well for several decades.

The issue now isn't having enough of a younger generation able to afford it but rather the interest just isn't there.

As the post above said if the average age of the active member is nearing 70 ... what's that going to mean in 5-10 years from now? That's very common in many of these private clubs. Those who could now afford to join in their 40s simply aren't. The publics have seen big upticks in business because of it.

[IUPNation]

There's a lot of money in Indiana (for its size).

There's two decent size banks HQ'd here plus the hospital. IUP also has some high-paying jobs.

There was enough to keep the country club doing well for several decades.

The issue now isn't having enough of a younger generation able to afford it but rather the interest just isn't there.

As the post above said if the average age of the active member is nearing 70 ... what's that going to mean in 5-10 years from now? That's very common in many of these private clubs. Those who could now afford to join in their 40s simply aren't. The publics have seen big upticks in business because of it.

It always seem like a town of haves or have nots. Not a lot of middle ground…but never thought it was a country club kinda area.

[Chuck Norris]

Speaking of country clubs, word is that Aaron Rodgers’ people are calling around trying to find one he’ll want to join in or around Pittsburgh.

Even though all the talk was trending that way heading into last night, I’m still surprised that everybody passed on Shedeur. And now the Browns have two of the first four picks in round 2 and that’s allegedly a place his dad absolutely didn’t want him to go. Maybe they’re all a bit humbled after last night. Maybe.

Steelers made the safe, unspectacular choice at a position of great need. It will be interesting to see which QB they do eventually pick to sit under the ARod learning tree.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Speaking of country clubs, word is that Aaron Rodgers’ people are calling around trying to find one he’ll want to join in or around Pittsburgh.

Even though all the talk was trending that way heading into last night, I’m still surprised that everybody passed on Shedeur. And now the Browns have two of the first four picks in round 2 and that’s allegedly a place his dad absolutely didn’t want him to go. Maybe they’re all a bit humbled after last night. Maybe.

Steelers made the safe, unspectacular choice at a position of great need. It will be interesting to see which QB they do eventually pick to sit under the ARod learning tree.

Cleveland's roster is just so, so bad right now. Whichever QB they toss in there this year -- Little Primetime, KP or Flacco -- is going to get murdered.

I don't think the Browns going QB early in Rd 2 is a good decision. Try and build up and then go heavy on a higher-up QB next year. They have two Rd 1 picks next year (as of now) and odds are pretty good their pick will be very high in 2026. I guess that was the logic in trading back last night (quantity).

Overall it was a pretty non-eventful Rd 1. I was a bit surprised Tyler Warren wasn't picked a bit higher (and was the second TE taken). The theory among the talking heads is the Michigan TE is more pro ready as he played a 'pro' TE role at Michigan, as to where Warren played about every position on the field in many gadget schemes.

All I can tell you is all 32 picks last night were fantastic and can't miss. And, three years from now, we'll look back and about half of them will miss.

Travis Hunter's outfit was something. Abdul Carter looked like the Zodiac.

[Chuck Norris]

Cleveland's roster is just so, so bad right now. Whichever QB they toss in there this year -- Little Primetime, KP or Flacco -- is going to get murdered.

I don't think the Browns going QB early in Rd 2 is a good decision. Try and build up and then go heavy on a higher-up QB next year. They have two Rd 1 picks next year (as of now) and odds are pretty good their pick will be very high in 2026. I guess that was the logic in trading back last night (quantity).

Overall it was a pretty non-eventful Rd 1. I was a bit surprised Tyler Warren wasn't picked a bit higher (and was the second TE taken). The theory among the talking heads is the Michigan TE is more pro ready as he played a 'pro' TE role at Michigan, as to where Warren played about every position on the field in many gadget schemes.

All I can tell you is all 32 picks last night were fantastic and can't miss. And, three years from now, we'll look back and about half of them will miss.

Travis Hunter's outfit was something. Abdul Carter looked like the Zodiac.

Yeah if Cleveland doesn’t take him it’ll be interesting to see just how much further Shedeur could fall. Jalen Milroe’s stock actually seems to be rising some as a potentially bigger, stronger Lamar Jackson if he can develop as a passer. It might not be stunning if he goes before Shedeur. He’s someone that a better team without an immediate QB need could take a flyer on knowing that he can sit and learn for a year or two.

I wonder if the Steelers will try to trade back into the second round. I’m not sure what they have that will get that done.

[IUP24]

Cleveland's roster is just so, so bad right now. Whichever QB they toss in there this year -- Little Primetime, KP or Flacco -- is going to get murdered.

I don't think the Browns going QB early in Rd 2 is a good decision. Try and build up and then go heavy on a higher-up QB next year. They have two Rd 1 picks next year (as of now) and odds are pretty good their pick will be very high in 2026. I guess that was the logic in trading back last night (quantity).

Overall it was a pretty non-eventful Rd 1. I was a bit surprised Tyler Warren wasn't picked a bit higher (and was the second TE taken). The theory among the talking heads is the Michigan TE is more pro ready as he played a 'pro' TE role at Michigan, as to where Warren played about every position on the field in many gadget schemes.

All I can tell you is all 32 picks last night were fantastic and can't miss. And, three years from now, we'll look back and about half of them will miss.

Travis Hunter's outfit was something. Abdul Carter looked like the Zodiac.

It is interesting that the talking heads tend to so heavily talk up prospects from major programs. There's a guy I like that is pretty objective in his analysis that is not a major media outlet guy. He indicated in some of his film breakdowns that had Warren been in the draft in either of the last two years, he wouldn't have even been remotely considered as a 1st round pick. That's not saying he wasn't a really good college player. All these guys are really good college players.

[IUPNation]

No teams wants the baggage Sanders will bring with Daddy making demands and chirping.

[Fightingscot82]

No teams wants the baggage Sanders will bring with Daddy making demands and chirping.

Nobody wants the Lonzo Ball of football.

[TheBigCat2192]

Overall it was a pretty non-eventful Rd 1. I was a bit surprised Tyler Warren wasn't picked a bit higher (and was the second TE taken). The theory among the talking heads is the Michigan TE is more pro ready as he played a 'pro' TE role at Michigan, as to where Warren played about every position on the field in many gadget schemes.

Warren was a fifth year senior who didn’t have a really productive season until his fourth year and didn’t really excel until his final year. Being older than the competition and not being productive until you’re older than the competition are both historically red flags for pass-catchers.

[IUPNation]

Nobody wants to deal with Peon as a stage mother.

[EyeoftheHawk]

It is interesting that the talking heads tend to so heavily talk up prospects from major programs. There's a guy I like that is pretty objective in his analysis that is not a major media outlet guy. He indicated in some of his film breakdowns that had Warren been in the draft in either of the last two years, he wouldn't have even been remotely considered as a 1st round pick. That's not saying he wasn't a really good college player. All these guys are really good college players.

I believe Tyler Warren will make an immediate impact in the NFL. He was dominant despite teams continually trying to double team him (Penn State didn’t exactly have a prolific offense) and he can play on the line and in the slot. He’s also an excellent blocker. He has a Travis Kelce skill set but is faster. He’s well worthy of the 1st round pick and a top 10 choice wouldn’t have been a reach. Of course any number of things could go wrong to derail that but all things being equal I expect him to be a perennial All-Pro.

The Colts interestingly drafted their first three players from the BIG. They’re having a solid draft and have a decent roster, but still lack a franchise QB. Maybe they can get Shedeur and he can save them :).

[EyeoftheHawk]

Nobody wants to deal with Peon as a stage mother.

I think what seems to be lost on a lot of people is Shedeur just hasn’t shown a true NFL starter skill set and nobody wants a popular backup. He only participated in throwing sessions for scouts on his terms leading up to the draft. Why? Because they’re trying to hide some things. On top of that, reports are many of his interviews with teams weren’t good and then there’s the Deion factor. Remember, everyone loves the backup QB and the second whoever is starting ahead of Shedeur struggles, you’ll hear Deion, the national media, and the local fan base screaming for him to get in the game. It will be a PR nightmare and coaches and teammates will get tired of having to answer questions about why the kid isn’t starting.

I think there’s a legitimate chance he doesn’t get drafted at all, although I wouldn’t bet on it just given the relationships Deion still has. Someone will do him a solid and give the kid a shot. For what it’s worth, this situation is quite a shot at Mel Kiper’s credibility. He had Shedeur as his #5 overall and has been acting like a knucklehead trying to justify it ever since. Hey, maybe in the long run he’ll be proven right but I just don’t see it.

[crixus]

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