2024 PSAC Non-Conference Schedule

[Ship69]

Frostburg is much more "west" than Shippensburg. They're a pretty simple 45 minute drive south of Somerset.

Frostburg from a travel standpoint would make much more sense in the West than Shippensburg.

Driving distance to PSAC West venues:

IUP — Frostburg, 94 miles; Shippensburg, 159

Slippery Rock — Frostburg, 151 miles, Shippensburg 217

California — Frostburg, 74 miles, Shippensburg, 164

Seton Hill — Frostburg, 80 miles, Shippensburg, 145

Edinboro — Frostburg, 210 miles, Shippensburg, 276

Clarion — Frostburg, 164 miles, Shippensburg 168

Erie (Gannon) — Frostburg, 228 miles, Shippensburg 294

Johnstown — Frostburg, 66 miles, Shippensburg, 105

[ctrabs74]

It's still crazy to me that a conference with one of the smallest geographical footprints in D2 doesn't do a complete round robin in sports where the season is long enough. Three divisions in basketball would allow for that.

But at least basketball and football have cross-division play, unlike every other PSAC sport that has divisions... as a bracketologist, there's nothing quite like trying to compare two teams in the same conference and finding out that they don't even have any common opponents.

I recall a proposal for basketball to move to three divisions about 10 years ago, though the coaches resoundingly rejected the plan. Unfortunately, I can't find the minutes for that meeting, but that was my recollection.

[ctrabs74]

Frostburg could just play Wheeling in non-conference instead.

Considering that the MEC schools have pretty much frozen Shepherd out as far as non-conference play is concerned, I don't think you're going to see MEC schools embracing a non-con game with Frostburg.

[Inkblot]

I know it's a longshot because there are probably a lot of hurdles to overcome in a short period of time (not to mention, the risk of more bruised egos in Bridgeport), but presuming that Frostburg somehow manages to join the PSAC next season. We might have a little bit of a scheduling issue...

Frostburg is set to open the 2024 season at home against Millersville on Sept. 5. Millersville was set to host Mercyhurst on Sept. 14. Presuming Frostburg ends up taking Mercyhurst's spot in the PSAC West, that might cause a scheduling issue since I doubt Millersville - or any school for that matter - would want to open the season against the same opponent.

Frostburg could just play Wheeling in non-conference instead.

[Inkblot]

And, now that I've looked at a map, it actually makes more geographic sense to put Frostburg in the PSAC West to replace Mercyhurst, much in the same way Shepherd took Cheyney's spot in the PSAC East. The more I think about it, though, it would make more sense from a basketball standpoint to go to a three-division scheme in the long-term, but we all seem to know how coaches felt about that idea when it was first approached about 10 years ago.

It's still crazy to me that a conference with one of the smallest geographical footprints in D2 doesn't do a complete round robin in sports where the season is long enough. Three divisions in basketball would allow for that.

But at least basketball and football have cross-division play, unlike every other PSAC sport that has divisions... as a bracketologist, there's nothing quite like trying to compare two teams in the same conference and finding out that they don't even have any common opponents.

[ctrabs74]

I know it's a longshot because there are probably a lot of hurdles to overcome in a short period of time (not to mention, the risk of more bruised egos in Bridgeport), but presuming that Frostburg somehow manages to join the PSAC next season. We might have a little bit of a scheduling issue...

Frostburg is set to open the 2024 season at home against Millersville on Sept. 5. Millersville was set to host Mercyhurst on Sept. 14. Presuming Frostburg ends up taking Mercyhurst's spot in the PSAC West, that might cause a scheduling issue since I doubt Millersville - or any school for that matter - would want to open the season against the same opponent.

[ctrabs74]

Lock Haven is more likely to move west than Shippensburg, but I agree that putting Frostburg in Hurst's spot would be more natural.

And, now that I've looked at a map, it actually makes more geographic sense to put Frostburg in the PSAC West to replace Mercyhurst, much in the same way Shepherd took Cheyney's spot in the PSAC East. The more I think about it, though, it would make more sense from a basketball standpoint to go to a three-division scheme in the long-term, but we all seem to know how coaches felt about that idea when it was first approached about 10 years ago.

[EastStroud13]

Frostburg is much more "west" than Shippensburg. They're a pretty simple 45 minute drive south of Somerset.

Lock Haven is more likely to move west than Shippensburg, but I agree that putting Frostburg in Hurst's spot would be more natural.

[Fightingscot82]

Hurst will play football in the fall. Problem is psac iscon year 1 on 2 year schedule cycle. 2025 there are issues. Can be resolved with Frostburg who could fit in nicely in the West or East.

Frostburg is much more "west" than Shippensburg. They're a pretty simple 45 minute drive south of Somerset.

[Iupgh]

Assuming Mercyhurst is gone, that obviously leaves a hole for several PSAC Football teams.

All the buzz is on Frostburg State joining. Do you know if they can join immediately, or, do they have a waiting period to leave the MEC? Seems to me Shepherd knew it was leaving but still had to play another season in the MEC before joining the PSAC. I cannot remember all the specifics, however.

Hurst will play football in the fall. Problem is psac iscon year 1 on 2 year schedule cycle. 2025 there are issues. Can be resolved with Frostburg who could fit in nicely in the West or East.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Assuming Mercyhurst is gone, that obviously leaves a hole for several PSAC Football teams.

All the buzz is on Frostburg State joining. Do you know if they can join immediately, or, do they have a waiting period to leave the MEC? Seems to me Shepherd knew it was leaving but still had to play another season in the MEC before joining the PSAC. I cannot remember all the specifics, however.

[Fightingscot82]

Carson Newman asking for a Week 1 game

[Fightingscot82]

I'm curious to see Dunn's budget and scholarship totals from his first year until now.

[CALUPA69]

My guess: Angelo got fired

Lol

Actually he was fired in May of 2012 and the travel continued until the lost season. My other guess is that Gary Dunn realized that with the yearly battle for position in the PSAC critically important for post season play, he really can't start with an L. Sort of surprised he scheduled CHAS. this year. Time will tell.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Actually CAL had traveled a lot starting in '10-@Saggy Val, '11-@StCSU, '13-@Hillsdale, '15-@VaSU, '18-@ODU, '19-@St A. Post pandemic WV is it. My guess budget cuts.

My guess: Angelo got fired

Lol