WT Football

[BuffaloChip]

Wendler is a joke. WT is the only school in the aTm system getting smaller. Lots of philosophical gibberish, not much vision or leadership. I have a feeling he’s now tampering with the athletics program, and not in positive ways. Really a shame for WT.

I don’t know why aTm puts these geezers in canyon that are at the edge of retirement. Is that a job requirement to be president of WT? This is what you get when you give away your university to a mothership 500 miles away. No real control by the stakeholders.

I have to agree with this. Wendell needs to GO! WT needs an energetic LEADER who grows the enrollment and understands the importance of athletics to the university. The WT Prez should not encourage high school students to look for alternatives to WT. Craziness!

[ASUPops]

https://www.amarillo.com/story/sport...t/13304338007/

It wasn't 2 freaking $30 tickets, it was asking student-athletes to lie to the AD to cover his arse.

"He said he told McBroom yes and told the student-athletes to tell him the same."

Enough said!

[Herb Street]

If WT is anything like Angelo, the pres is a huge deal when it comes to football.

Angelo's previous pres, Dr. May was HUGE into football. I remember him telling me when he made the move on Wagner that Girsch was the REAL DEAL. He was so PISSED about the direction of Angelo football and he had enough. He terminated Wagner after a win against ENMU (same night) with two games left in the 2018 season. That man had BALLS.

I remember him telling me "If Girsch is a bust, it's all on me. It would totally land on my shoulders because I believe 100% that he is the right guy. He is the real deal"

Man, May was absolutely right and so invested in Angelo State football. I loved watching his enthusiasm. Never seen a pres like that.

So, the question is, is Wendler a "football guy"?

Wendler is a joke. WT is the only school in the aTm system getting smaller. Lots of philosophical gibberish, not much vision or leadership. I have a feeling he’s now tampering with the athletics program, and not in positive ways. Really a shame for WT.

I don’t know why aTm puts these geezers in canyon that are at the edge of retirement. Is that a job requirement to be president of WT? This is what you get when you give away your university to a mothership 500 miles away. No real control by the stakeholders.

[WT_TKW]

There is a real lack of leadership at Wt now. Our Pres. is simply playing out the string till his retirement.
Mc Broom was hired by the previous AD, Ed Harris, to be Ed's replacement when he retired.
The plan was for Mc Broom to be trained by Harris and take over. That is what happened.

I have gotten to know McBroom well over the last several years. He truly wants each sport to be successful.
The issue with boosters is that hindsight is 20/20. It's easy to say Hugh's was a bad hire. Mook (SB),
Morgan (VB), Brown (MBB), and Prock (WBB) have all been very good hires. Mattio (WBB) was an end-of-season promotion
that record-wise turned out to be a good hire. McBroom uses the same process to hire every HC. It's hard for me to say that the
process is flawed or his judgment is not good. The two notable outliers were Nesbitt and Patel. (Patel is now HC at ASU)
Both of those were forced mid-season hires when the HC left and McBroom could not take time to implement his hiring process.
So, what is the problem with football?? Clearly coaching is part of the problem. I do not believe that it's 100% of the problem.
With a proven track record of hiring success, there must be other factors at play. I have no clue what they are.

I had been told that McBroom was introducing Nesbitt as the "next head coach" before Carthel was fired. Even if this is untrue, there were no other candidates considered before Nesbitt had the "interim" removed from his title. WT tanked the following season. This season makes 9 years of mediocre football. Most of us, including me, thought Hughes would be successful.

Why did the basketball coach walk a few months after Carthel was fired?

I agree with you on Wendler.

[Great White Buffalo]

What I find interesting is that Michael McBroom got his master's from one of my alma maters, and his 1st AD job was at WTAMU. WHY IN THE WORLD would WT hire an AD that has never been an AD???

Also, Carthel just started 1 year before McBroom. And was there 7 seasons with McBroom.......so, it must not be McBroom that's the problem.

I read his bio, and he sounds GREAT.

https://gobuffsgo.com/staff-director...ael-mcbroom/16

The difference may you your president, who arrived in 2016. Don't know.

There is a real lack of leadership at Wt now. Our Pres. is simply playing out the string till his retirement.
Mc Broom was hired by the previous AD, Ed Harris, to be Ed's replacement when he retired.
The plan was for Mc Broom to be trained by Harris and take over. That is what happened.

I have gotten to know McBroom well over the last several years. He truly wants each sport to be successful.
The issue with boosters is that hindsight is 20/20. It's easy to say Hugh's was a bad hire. Mook (SB),
Morgan (VB), Brown (MBB), and Prock (WBB) have all been very good hires. Mattio (WBB) was an end-of-season promotion
that record-wise turned out to be a good hire. McBroom uses the same process to hire every HC. It's hard for me to say that the
process is flawed or his judgment is not good. The two notable outliers were Nesbitt and Patel. (Patel is now HC at ASU)
Both of those were forced mid-season hires when the HC left and McBroom could not take time to implement his hiring process.
So, what is the problem with football?? Clearly coaching is part of the problem. I do not believe that it's 100% of the problem.
With a proven track record of hiring success, there must be other factors at play. I have no clue what they are.

[WT_TKW]

How could a HC and AD barely speak???

https://www.amarillo.com/story/sport...t/13304338007/

[ASUPops]

It was well known that Carthel and McBroom did not get along, and barely spoke.

How could a HC and AD barely speak???

[WT_TKW]

If WT is anything like Angelo, the pres is a huge deal when it comes to football.

Angelo's previous pres, Dr. May was HUGE into football. I remember him telling me when he made the move on Wagner that Girsch was the REAL DEAL. He was so PISSED about the direction of Angelo football and he had enough. He terminated Wagner after a win against ENMU (same night) with two games left in the 2018 season. That man had BALLS.

I remember him telling me "If Girsch is a bust, it's all on me. It would totally land on my shoulders because I believe 100% that he is the right guy. He is the real deal"

Man, May was absolutely right and so invested in Angelo State football. I loved watching his enthusiasm. Never seen a pres like that.

So, the question is, is Wendler a "football guy"?

Evidently NOT.

[WT_TKW]

What I find interesring is that Michael McBroom got his masters from one of my alma maters, and his 1st AD job was WTAMU. WHY IN THE WORLD would WT hire an AD that has never been an AD???

Also,Carthel just started 1 year before McBroom. And was there 7 seasons with McBroom.......so,it must not be McBroom that's the problem.

I read his bio, and he sounds GREAT.

https://gobuffsgo.com/staff-director...ael-mcbroom/16

The difference may you your president, who arrived in 2016. Don't know.

It was well known that Carthel and McBroom did not get along, and barely spoke.

[ASUPops]

If WT is anything like Angelo, the pres is a huge deal when it comes to football.

Angelo's previous pres, Dr. May was HUGE into football. I remember him telling me when he made the move on Wagner that Girsch was the REAL DEAL. He was so PISSED about the direction of Angelo football and he had enough. He terminated Wagner after a win against ENMU (same night) with two games left in the 2018 season. That man had BALLS.

I remember him telling me "If Girsch is a bust, it's all on me. It would totally land on my shoulders because I believe 100% that he is the right guy. He is the real deal"

Man, May was absolutely right and so invested in Angelo State football. I loved watching his enthusiasm. Never seen a pres like that.

So, the question is, is Wendler a "football guy"?

[ASUPops]

Over a year later and the story is still the same. However I can add that the other coach we wanted, currently at Valdosta State, has a 4-5 record this year. So much for evaluating "good" football coaches.

What I find interesring is that Michael McBroom got his masters from one of my alma maters, and his 1st AD job was WTAMU. WHY IN THE WORLD would WT hire an AD that has never been an AD???

Also,Carthel just started 1 year before McBroom. And was there 7 seasons with McBroom.......so,it must not be McBroom that's the problem.

I read his bio, and he sounds GREAT.

https://gobuffsgo.com/staff-director...ael-mcbroom/16

The difference may you your president, who arrived in 2016. Don't know.

[WT_TKW]

Regarding Nesbitt, it was posted on this forum that long before Carthel was fired, that McBroom was introducing Nesbitt as "the next head football coach". Also months before Carthel was fired someone in this forum posted that "O'Brien has given McBroom the green light to fire Carthel". Whether one or both of these are actually true, I don't know. Also, remember Spanishgate? Nesbitt got a pass on that even though the whistleblowing player said Nesbitt was very aware of what was going on. Instead a lowly assistant coach was fired. Spanishgate was a lot more serious than Ranger tickets. It didn't take long after being caretaker for a year for Nesbitt to wreck the program. I don't recall anyone else being interviewed.

I agree about Hughes. He seemed like a great candidate. However being a good coordinator does not necessarily lead to being a good head coach, e.g., Nesbitt.

Maybe UTPB is just a fantastic team and Hughes can overcome the loss. I really hope so. Maybe Commerce after a year off has lost something and we can beat them. Maybe we can slip by Angelo or Mines.. Maybe the coaches can figure out that to win they have to unleash Gerber instead of waiting until 3rd down. Maybe some day Hughes will realize the kicking game is actually important. Maybe too many maybes.

I live over 600 miles from Canyon, so I will have to decline your invite, though it is appreciated. I have been to 2-3 volleyball matches and I enjoyed them, I went to a Lady Buffs basketball game in 2015. Sorry, I just hate basketball, at any level. I used to come up 3-4 times per year for football and the same for softball. However I haven't been anywhere near there since the last game at Kimbrough. Somebody else can enjoy the Club Level.

Over a year later and the story is still the same. However I can add that the other coach we wanted, currently at Valdosta State, has a 4-5 record this year. So much for evaluating "good" football coaches.

[Buffalo/Islander Alum]

Note from gobuffsgo. The games sites with western Colorado on the road and adams state at home have switched. Western Colorado travels to WT and WT travels to Adams Staten. I like that trade.

https://gobuffsgo.com/news/2022/5/23...-football.aspx

[WT_TKW]

Also should note it is on I-82, not I-90, Of course a former Cowboy backup played at CWU and I'm sure most WT fans know that, Too bad for them WT got Ryan Leaf who seemed more about himself than his team when at WSU.

Prosser though, they were a state power for years under Kellen Moore's dad at the 2A level.

Ryan had a lot of talent but just couldn't handle the mental game. He was the golf coach and QB coach at WT. He really helped our QBs but just couldn't stay off the junk. I hope he's better now.

[ASUPops]

I'm not sure if you know this, but Dallas's current OC played his HS football only about an hour from CWU and is in the same conference as Ellensburg's HS team.

Yup. Born & raised in Prosser. His dad Tom was the HS HC until Kellen graduated.