WT Football

[Buffalo/Islander Alum]

I see that Tremaine Jackson has been chosen D2 COTY. Didn't McB pass over him to choose Hughes?

Like WT_TKW mentioned, not offering him a multi year contract was 100% the issue.

I dont have concrete proof of it and I am not going to "out" my sources 10 years later, but Jackson and Hughes were pretty much even in the interview process.

Hughes was good with the year by year deal and Jackson was not.

To be fair Hughes on paper at the time looked like the more qualified candidate when he pitched a shutout in the 2014 national championship game as defensive coordinator and WT (LSC for that matter) wasnt known for their defense (still arent).

[MooseLodge]

The MIAA commissioner keeps talking about adding a bunch of teams and WT and Midwestern have been mentioned as targets. Also, a bunch of Okie schools (Baptist, Christian, Southern Naz) so a Southern Division could be formed.

Most of the Oklahoma D2 schools are in the GAC and happy to be there. It's a conference where everyone agrees to fewer scholarships than D2 allows. I don't see any joining UCO in the MIAA.

I don't see WT doing anything but the LSC unless the conference no longer has sufficient football-playing schools to have an automatic playoff qualifier.

[Try II]

I wanted WT to follow Central Oklahoma and Northeastern Ok to the MIAA, when LSC started to break up.

The MIAA commissioner keeps talking about adding a bunch of teams and WT and Midwestern have been mentioned as targets. Also, a bunch of Okie schools (Baptist, Christian, Southern Naz) so a Southern Division could be formed.

[MooseLodge]

And he signed to play at UTPB last week. Not a good look.

Players are transferring for any of a variety of reasons - some good, some bad. I wouldn't necessarily see his transfer as any indictment of the WT program. Every school in college football has two or three dozen players coming and going.

[WT_TKW]

And he signed to play at UTPB last week. Not a good look.

I'm sorry to lose a good QB. He will be within an hour drive from home, and will be playing for a proven coach. It sounds like a great deal for him.

[WT_TKW]

I see that Tremaine Jackson has been chosen D2 COTY. Didn't McB pass over him to choose Hughes?

Yes, but not being able to sign him to a multi year contract as opposed to day to day may have also been an issue.

[UTPBFalcons1]

I just heard that WT’s starting QB, Kanon Gibson, has entered the transfer portal along with 2-3 other Buffs. Whether you think Gibson was any good or not, it doesn’t look good for the FB program. You can’t chalk it up to lack of playing time.

And he signed to play at UTPB last week. Not a good look.

[cwfenn]

Regardless of what was discussed in the year end meeting, it still raises questions about the WT football program when the STARTING QB, not the back ups, decides to transfer. It he really is looking for a better opportunity, what does that say about the WT program especially from a starter. Don’t get me wrong. I am WT fan and season ticket holder in multiple sports. I am just tired of a lousy FB program.

Same thing happened at Shepherd, their starting QB went off to Charleston Southern. I think the reality is that it doesn’t matter the role or amount of playing time, if they think there’s a better place for them, they’re gone.

[BuffaloChip]

I see that Tremaine Jackson has been chosen D2 COTY. Didn't McB pass over him to choose Hughes?

[MooseLodge]

I wanted WT to follow Central Oklahoma and Northeastern Ok to the MIAA, when LSC started to break up.

Fair. I want to follow-up on the $$$ subject re: moving to FCS. You stated that WT not moving up was a big mistake, and I was asking you where the $6-8 million would come from to move up. Where, specifically, would this money come from? $20 million seems to be the generally accepted minimum to be somewhat competitive. With increased scholarships, that number would likely rise another 10 percent, to $22 million. Where would WT find another $8-10 million a year to do that?

[loper legionnaire]

I wanted WT to follow Central Oklahoma and Northeastern Ok to the MIAA, when LSC started to break up.

It could still happen. The MIAA hasn't closed the door on additional expansion. I don't remember where I saw it, but I recall seeing somewhere that WT and Midwestern were a couple schools being speculated as potential additions.

[Rockofwesties]

Where did the money come from for Tarleton and East Texas A&M to move to FCS?

What D2 conference would you have WT join?

I wanted WT to follow Central Oklahoma and Northeastern Ok to the MIAA, when LSC started to break up.

[MooseLodge]

Same place it came from for Tarleton and East Texas AM. But if staying D2 was the strategic plan then position the university to be in a stable and committed D2 conference. The LSC is not a top D2 conference anymore.

*For the record I don’t believe WT had a strategic plan.

Where did the money come from for Tarleton and East Texas A&M to move to FCS?

What D2 conference would you have WT join?

[Rockofwesties]

OK, I'll play. Where would the extra $6-8 million per year come from to be FCS and D1 in all other sports?

Same place it came from for Tarleton and East Texas AM. But if staying D2 was the strategic plan then position the university to be in a stable and committed D2 conference. The LSC is not a top D2 conference anymore.

*For the record I don’t believe WT had a strategic plan.

[MooseLodge]

WT had the chance to use the momentum of 2005-2012 and move up, instead they decided to focus on team GPAs. Now the teams that moved up are doing better and the teams that stayed D2 but changed conferences are doing better. The worst decision was to stay put D2 LSC.

OK, I'll play. Where would the extra $6-8 million per year come from to be FCS and D1 in all other sports?