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Originally posted by Brandon View Post
As I recall it, he said it was known that the seven were the seven with two weeks to go. I can't tell tell you with 100% certainty that he said it on the show, but I know that's what he said.
However each time Central Washington was discussed it was...."they lost to Montana State at home and they only decent team they beat was Angelo State who had also beaten nobody....."
In fact one of his comments (as close as I remember) was..."Its hard not for the NCAA to think about CW losing at home to a NAIA school when considering the field even though it cant be used as criteria"....
It doesn't take a sharp guy to figure out that they were privately hoping Wayne State would sneak into that last spot if Minnesota State beat Duluth or even Duluth was more deserving having beaten Minnesota State on the road despite the low SOS.
He was also lobbying for the LSC champ to travel to one of the NSIC locations first round of the playoffs even though that champ would only have 1 loss.
I totally get it. I would have taken the same position being the NSIC fan and columnist.
I like Witt he is an awesome columnist and fun to banter with.
We both made wrong predictions and will again.
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Originally posted by Buffalo/Islander Alum View Post
Yep we had the discussion for weeks on the NSIC board that this would most likely be the 7 teams if they won out.
However each time Central Washington was discussed it was...."they lost to Montana State at home and they only decent team they beat was Angelo State who had also beaten nobody....."
In fact one of his comments (as close as I remember) was..."Its hard not for the NCAA to think about CW losing at home to a NAIA school when considering the field even though it cant be used as criteria"....
It doesn't take a sharp guy to figure out that they were privately hoping Wayne State would sneak into that last spot if Minnesota State beat Duluth or even Duluth was more deserving having beaten Minnesota State on the road despite the low SOS.
He was also lobbying for the LSC champ to travel to one of the NSIC locations first round of the playoffs even though that champ would only have 1 loss.
I totally get it. I would have taken the same position being the NSIC fan and columnist.
I like Witt he is an awesome columnist and fun to banter with.
We both made wrong predictions and will again.
CWU lost to Montana Tech. A loss against Montana State would not have been a negative ha ha ha.
I talk to Witt at least twice a day. I never recall him saying that he thought Wayne deserved to get in. You could be imagining things.
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Originally posted by Brandon View Post
Who is "they"?
CWU lost to Montana Tech. A loss against Montana State would not have been a negative ha ha ha.
I talk to Witt at least twice a day. I never recall him saying that he thought Wayne deserved to get in. You could be imagining things.
Good thing Weber St. Didn't Count either.
Never said he did pubicly say it about Wayne deserving to being in.
My point has always been he agreed on Central Washington being in the field but it was more of a "well you can't keep a team out that only lost one D2 game even though they lost to a NAIA team in Montana Tech" instead of more credit that they earned it.
Now me and others on the LSC board were also guilty of the Montana Tech thing early on thinking they were going to be average again and not a factor until they ran off that winning streak.
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We absolutely talked about how legit CWU’s slate was..and included Tech in that. If you feel that wasn’t a bad loss for a D2 playoff team, then we will agree to disagree. But I never had CWU not in the field. Period.
You’ve distorted the truth of what we’ve said in the podcast(s) enough that I honestly don’t have the time or inclination to debate here with you.
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Originally posted by Matt Witwicki View PostWe absolutely talked about how legit CWU’s slate was..and included Tech in that. If you feel that wasn’t a bad loss for a D2 playoff team, then we will agree to disagree. But I never had CWU not in the field. Period.
You’ve distorted the truth of what we’ve said in the podcast(s) enough that I honestly don’t have the time or inclination to debate here with you.
If it were up to you and others then that NAIA loss would have been a contributing factor to keeping CWU out of the field and putting another NSIC team in there.
You are having your cake and eating it too with this debate.
You are saying its a bad loss but you know darn well it doesnt count toward CWU playoff resume which is why you caveat it with "Central Washington should be in the field".
I am pretty sure Central Washington would love to have more D2 non conference options closer by to where they dont have to schedule NAIA and FCS teams.
It works the other direction too.
Ferris State as an example:
Let's say they finished this regular season 11-0, which would have included a win against a #2 seed Montana in the FCS playoffs, but finished with a 3 seed D2 regional ranking.
I would bet Ferris State fans and the GLIAC columnist would have a fit because they would have been ranked behind a possible Harding or Pitt State team having to travel there.
We have both made our points enough and agree to disagree.
Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.Last edited by Buffalo/Islander Alum; 11-23-2023, 09:53 AM.
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Originally posted by Purple Mav Man View PostMan, how bad is the LSC these days??? We’ve got Texas guys pulling incredibly hard for a team from Washington state just to try to make their Texas schools look halfway decent. Crazy times. And sad, really.
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Originally posted by Buffalo/Islander Alum View Post
Where do we tune in to watch Minnesota State play this week?
I should add, to answer your question: Same place all WT playoff games are streamed.Last edited by Purple Mav Man; 11-23-2023, 07:37 PM.
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Originally posted by Buffalo/Islander Alum View Post
Lol you know I meant Montana Tech.
Good thing Weber St. Didn't Count either.
Never said he did pubicly say it about Wayne deserving to being in.
My point has always been he agreed on Central Washington being in the field but it was more of a "well you can't keep a team out that only lost one D2 game even though they lost to a NAIA team in Montana Tech" instead of more credit that they earned it.
Now me and others on the LSC board were also guilty of the Montana Tech thing early on thinking they were going to be average again and not a factor until they ran off that winning streak.
Nobody was calling for Wayne over CWU. Every statement I saw from Matt and my own posts, stated that the 7 teams were set and that it was simply a matter of seeding. You were the only one trying to sneak in a 3 loss team in Angelo.
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Originally posted by Purple Mav Man View Post
So predictable, and stupid. I’m not the one on here touting conference teams because mine is such a mess it can’t even sniff a winning record. Try again.
Personally I dont give a rats arse in general about Central Washington as I made it clear they are probably gone when the LSC gets enough Texas teams.
Obviously you still care about your conference since you are still around.
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Originally posted by Buffalo/Islander Alum View Post
Don't pick a fight if you dont want one.
Personally I dont give a rats arse in general about Central Washington as I made it clear they are probably gone when the LSC gets enough Texas teams.
Obviously you still care about your conference since you are still around.
Why are you picking a fight with the NSIC blogger then? You do clearly care as you brought it up to him directly earlier today. What am I missing?
Not sure how that means anything? I’d be on here whether all NSIC teams were done or not. Only one I care about is MSU. If CWU boat races Bemidji, so be it. My team is done already. I just think it’s fun to watch you turn in circles :)
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Originally posted by Purple Mav Man View Post
This post sums up most of your posts. You get called out and asked a direct question. You never answer and change your argument.
Nobody was calling for Wayne over CWU. Every statement I saw from Matt and my own posts, stated that the 7 teams were set and that it was simply a matter of seeding. You were the only one trying to sneak in a 3 loss team in Angelo.
I called him out for his passive aggressive stance about Central Washington's loss to a NAIA team on his podcasts, not about Wayne State or Angelo State making any playoff spots.
I doubt Witt needs you in here trying to be his hero fighting his battles, he did fine on his own.
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Originally posted by Buffalo/Islander Alum View Post
I am going to speak really slowly for the last time
I called him out for his passive aggressive stance about Central Washington's loss to a NAIA team on his podcasts, not about Wayne State or Angelo State making any playoff spots.
I doubt Witt needs you in here trying to be his hero fighting his battles, he did fine on his own.
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Originally posted by Buffalo/Islander Alum View Post
I am going to speak really slowly for the last time
I called him out for his passive aggressive stance about Central Washington's loss to a NAIA team on his podcasts, not about Wayne State or Angelo State making any playoff spots.
I doubt Witt needs you in here trying to be his hero fighting his battles, he did fine on his own.
I have ZERO interest in trying to defend another grown man 🤣🤣 I am simply calling out your BS. What was this part then: “It doesn't take a sharp guy to figure out that they were privately hoping Wayne State would sneak into that last spot” Sounds like it’s about Wayne making a playoff spot over CWU to me. From your words anyway.
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