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[Brandon]

Re: UST

I assume Mankato, Duluth, St Cloud, and Bemidji include D1 hockey budgets so you have to take that into account. Those numbers would still be well below what the bottom of the Summit league spends for athletics.

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[njmav1]

Summit
Denver 37,769,806
NDSU 28,025,664
UND 23,491,010
Omaha 19,345,842
SDSU 19,134,522
USD 15,863,783
Western Illinois 12,904,534
Oral Roberts 11,953,483
IPFW 10,771,785

NSIC
Mankato 11,748,930
Duluth 11,362,056
St Cloud 10,594,237
Augie 9,476,671
Sioux Falls 6,969,146
Upper Iowa 6,829,860
Bemidji 6,724,046
U-Mary 6,483,046
Northern 6,152,913
Winona 5,919,752
Moorhead 5,856,710
Concordia 5,416,294
Minot 4,850,268
Crookston 4,668,730
Southwest 4,586,811
Wayne 4,297,405

I assume Mankato, Duluth, St Cloud, and Bemidji include D1 hockey budgets so you have to take that into account. Those numbers would still be well below what the bottom of the Summit league spends for athletics.

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[Otis Day]

Re: UST

Summit
Denver 37,769,806
NDSU 28,025,664
UND 23,491,010
Omaha 19,345,842
SDSU 19,134,522
USD 15,863,783
Western Illinois 12,904,534
Oral Roberts 11,953,483
IPFW 10,771,785

NSIC
Mankato 11,748,930
Duluth 11,362,056
St Cloud 10,594,237
Augie 9,476,671
Sioux Falls 6,969,146
Upper Iowa 6,829,860
Bemidji 6,724,046
U-Mary 6,483,046
Northern 6,152,913
Winona 5,919,752
Moorhead 5,856,710
Concordia 5,416,294
Minot 4,850,268
Crookston 4,668,730
Southwest 4,586,811
Wayne 4,297,405

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Stanger86 again."

Never seen all these numbers for comparison. Thanks Stanger.

[Stanger86]

Re: UST

$11.75 million. Is there a ranking somewhere so I can see where we slot in among D1 schools? Because I know that's more than some D1 schools. We are a very large athletics department with a total of 20 sports, though. (Used to be 23).

Summit
Denver 37,769,806
NDSU 28,025,664
UND 23,491,010
Omaha 19,345,842
SDSU 19,134,522
USD 15,863,783
Western Illinois 12,904,534
Oral Roberts 11,953,483
IPFW 10,771,785

NSIC
Mankato 11,748,930
Duluth 11,362,056
St Cloud 10,594,237
Augie 9,476,671
Sioux Falls 6,969,146
Upper Iowa 6,829,860
Bemidji 6,724,046
U-Mary 6,483,046
Northern 6,152,913
Winona 5,919,752
Moorhead 5,856,710
Concordia 5,416,294
Minot 4,850,268
Crookston 4,668,730
Southwest 4,586,811
Wayne 4,297,405

[Supercal95]

Re: UST

$11.75 million. Is there a ranking somewhere so I can see where we slot in among D1 schools? Because I know that's more than some D1 schools. We are a very large athletics department with a total of 20 sports, though. (Used to be 23).

[Twincitiesmav]

Re: UST

Rachel Blount does her usual great job of answering questions, many of which I have seen asked on here.

http://www.startribune.com/if-miac-d...ted/509992312/

[laker]

Re: UST

Rachel Blount does her usual great job of answering questions, many of which I have seen asked on here.

http://www.startribune.com/if-miac-d...ted/509992312/

[Stanger86]

Re: UST

I've talked with several Morningside-connected folks too.....they love where they are at right now, competitive across the board in virtually everything at the NAIA level. No strong desire to return to D2

The ONLY plus for them to make a move would be the increase in competition level. They have a pretty great situation right now in the GPAC. Not only is it a good level for them, but they're pretty centrally located within a smaller footprint. Of their 11 conference road trips, three are closer than a road trip to Wayne, five of them are closer than a road trip to Sioux Falls, and 10 are closer than a road trip to Fayette.

[wscsuperfan]

Re: UST

I, among others, have talked to Morningside people (including coaches) at length about this. They love where they are at now and claim no interest in D2. They like having success in football and remember when they were the NCC doormat.

I've talked with several Morningside-connected folks too.....they love where they are at right now, competitive across the board in virtually everything at the NAIA level. No strong desire to return to D2

[zimmy21]

Re: UST

No doubt! The exposure would be great for the NSIC.

It most absolutely would! It would be nice to be more than a score clipping in a newspaper that isn't published in the same city as a member school

[StateU]

Re: UST

Don't forget clear channel WCCO radio that can reach how many states?

No doubt! The exposure would be great for the NSIC.

[laker]

Re: UST

It's gonna be rough on the NSIC, with many recruits coming from the twin cities, I'd imagine with scholarships in play for high education and solid athletic programs, kids will choose a school near home and in a bigger market with the largest newspaper dedicated almost exclusively to them.

Don't forget clear channel WCCO radio that can reach how many states?

[zimmy21]

Re: UST

D3 power playing in D2.

It's gonna be rough on the NSIC, with many recruits coming from the twin cities, I'd imagine with scholarships in play for high education and solid athletic programs, kids will choose a school near home and in a bigger market with the largest newspaper dedicated almost exclusively to them.

[Brandon]

Re: UST

To see how a 17 team conference works?

D3 power playing in D2.

[laker]

Re: UST

I'm sure that the NSIC doesn't simply want to be a parking place for a future D1 program, but if St. Thomas wants to make the full move they should begin playing chess at this point. Don't know if Tom Douple is playing the long game, but he should be. Frankly the WAC, dumpster fire that it is, is much more proactive in bringing D2 programs in than the Summit has been. The NSIC should be looking at St. Thomas as a pass through member while they work on nabbing somebody else. UNK is a long bus ride for the MIAA and might be a slightly better match for the NSIC--although it's a miserable drive either way. Maybe Morningside is another option, too successful to stay NAIA.

I, among others, have talked to Morningside people (including coaches) at length about this. They love where they are at now and claim no interest in D2. They like having success in football and remember when they were the NCC doormat.