2023 Out of Conference Games - Scheduled

[NSU4LIFE]

You'd think the D3 model could be quite lucrative for them, especially being such a small college. I'm sure it takes a lot of money to actually start one though, so I get it.

When I was at Presentation they added football with HC and staff. First year they added like 54 football players and enrollment was up 45 (something like that).

Pretty expensive way to up enrollment unless it can lead to a big following and/or donors via businesses or privately.

[Inkblot]

When I was at Presentation they added football with HC and staff. First year they added like 54 football players and enrollment was up 45 (something like that).

Pretty expensive way to up enrollment unless it can lead to a big following and/or donors via businesses or privately.

That was around the same time they went from D3 back to NAIA. Not sure if the decisions were related or not.

[NSU4LIFE]

That was around the same time they went from D3 back to NAIA. Not sure if the decisions were related or not.

NAIA move came a few years after, they were not related.

[laker]

Ahh, forgot about that. Yeah - that's a bummer, and strange. It's too bad so many JUCOs in MN dropped the sport. Only a handful left now.

Yes, down to 7 and that is counting NDSCS in Wahpeton.

[SW_Mustang]

When I was at Presentation they added football with HC and staff. First year they added like 54 football players and enrollment was up 45 (something like that).

Pretty expensive way to up enrollment unless it can lead to a big following and/or donors via businesses or privately.

It depends. I'm not sure of the rules in NAIA, but for D3, there is no roster limit and no athletic scholarships. Many D3 schools are expensive private ones, so those factors combined can make it quite lucrative for some schools to add the sport. There was an article about how D3 was expanding a few years back, I'll have to see if I can find it. CSS was mentioned as one of the schools in the D3 boom at the time for a local connection.

SJU used to be known for their large roster - there is definitely a market out there of students that would happily wear a jersey and stand on a sideline. And given their tuition costs, I can imagine it was pretty nice for them on that end.

That being said, it still costs a lot of run a football program regardless of division - so it's not going to be a for every school to pursue.

[NSU4LIFE]

It depends. I'm not sure of the rules in NAIA, but for D3, there is no roster limit and no athletic scholarships. Many D3 schools are expensive private ones, so those factors combined can make it quite lucrative for some schools to add the sport. There was an article about how D3 was expanding a few years back, I'll have to see if I can find it. CSS was mentioned as one of the schools in the D3 boom at the time for a local connection.

SJU used to be known for their large roster - there is definitely a market out there of students that would happily wear a jersey and stand on a sideline. And given their tuition costs, I can imagine it was pretty nice for them on that end.

That being said, it still costs a lot of run a football program regardless of division - so it's not going to be a for every school to pursue.

Thanks for adding to the second part of my post, haha

[Matt Witwicki]

It depends. I'm not sure of the rules in NAIA, but for D3, there is no roster limit and no athletic scholarships. Many D3 schools are expensive private ones, so those factors combined can make it quite lucrative for some schools to add the sport. There was an article about how D3 was expanding a few years back, I'll have to see if I can find it. CSS was mentioned as one of the schools in the D3 boom at the time for a local connection.

SJU used to be known for their large roster - there is definitely a market out there of students that would happily wear a jersey and stand on a sideline. And given their tuition costs, I can imagine it was pretty nice for them on that end.

That being said, it still costs a lot of run a football program regardless of division - so it's not going to be a for every school to pursue.

NAIA is 24 scholarships. I don't think there's a roster limit either..but could be mistaken on that one. Often times the football program really supplements the school student enrollment as they are often smallish in size. D2 has plenty of that also.

[SW_Mustang]

Thanks for adding to the second part of my post, haha

It's what I'm here for! Haha

[SW_Mustang]

NAIA is 24 scholarships. I don't think there's a roster limit either..but could be mistaken on that one. Often times the football program really supplements the school student enrollment as they are often smallish in size. D2 has plenty of that also.

Definitely. I think SMSU is one that benefits from having football, enrollment wise.

[MrMustang]

Not sure why Kelly Loft hasn't gotten us a game scheduled yet for our open week. He must be on vacation

[zimmy21]

Looking at the open dates on the D2 main page...I'm not sure why MSU hasn't gotten ahold of Saginaw Valley State and scheduled a nice OOC and OOR game!

[Brandon]

Looking at the open dates on the D2 main page...I'm not sure why MSU hasn't gotten ahold of Saginaw Valley State and scheduled a nice OOC and OOR game!

That would be fun.

[Redwing]

With all these open dates, I've got to believe that they'll be at least one GLIAC matchup coming. What I don't get is why it's taking so long to announce one.

[Otis Day]

With a week 9 opening for the Coo, I guess I'll enjoy the bye week. Most teams across any division are going to be in the heart of conference play. I know it was 'random' but feels like a missed opportunity for a long awaited OOC game.

[laker]

With a week 9 opening for the Coo, I guess I'll enjoy the bye week. Most teams across any division are going to be in the heart of conference play. I know it was 'random' but feels like a missed opportunity for a long awaited OOC game.

Maybe Vandy has a opening- or is that in Week 11 for SEC teams? Week 9 is a tough week to find anyone.