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  • #16
    Originally posted by Purple Mav Man View Post

    I mean, if we’re judging solely on previous years, then how many playoff games has UTPB won?
    Not really a strawman argument you want to create since UTPB started up football in 2016.

    Even more so if they win a couple of rounds.

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    • #17
      We will talk about it on the pod tonight in great detail....but I wouldn't take the current rankings all too seriously. There's a lot to be sorted out yet with 3 big games left in W11. Mines at #1 is about the only thing set in stone.
      -CWU at UTPB
      -BSU at Augie
      -Kato at UMD

      I will explain Wayne tonight also in detail..and UMD.

      Expect our show to air on twitter and youtube at 7pm or 8pm....wait and see given it's halloween, etc.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Thunder View Post

        So for all the talk of nonconference games, UMD will actually be penalized because they scheduled a really bad Northern Michigan team to start the season. I would've liked to see the Bulldogs have a tougher OOC opponent, but this scenario doesn't exactly encourage the NSIC to keep OOC games once we are back to an even number of teams.
        UMD is being penalized for losing games, in this case conference games. But yes, scheduling a tougher OOC game would make more sense for a team trying to make the playoffs. The criteria didn't change mid-season. As you mentioned, UMD chose to schedule a really bad Northern Michigan team. But even with that, if they don't lose two conference games, it's a moot point.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Matt Witwicki View Post
          We will talk about it on the pod tonight in great detail....but I wouldn't take the current rankings all too seriously. There's a lot to be sorted out yet with 3 big games left in W11. Mines at #1 is about the only thing set in stone.
          -CWU at UTPB
          -BSU at Augie
          -Kato at UMD

          I will explain Wayne tonight also in detail..and UMD.

          Expect our show to air on twitter and youtube at 7pm or 8pm....wait and see given it's halloween, etc.
          .

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Matt Witwicki View Post
            We will talk about it on the pod tonight in great detail....but I wouldn't take the current rankings all too seriously. There's a lot to be sorted out yet with 3 big games left in W11. Mines at #1 is about the only thing set in stone.
            -CWU at UTPB
            -BSU at Augie
            -Kato at UMD

            I will explain Wayne tonight also in detail..and UMD.

            Expect our show to air on twitter and youtube at 7pm or 8pm....wait and see given it's halloween, etc.
            A small correction Matt. UMD is at MSU.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Matt Witwicki View Post

              Expect our show to air on twitter and youtube at 7pm or 8pm....wait and see given it's halloween, etc.
              Delay the podcast a day. You should take full advantage of being able to dress up and knock on doors for free candy!!!!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by WPHB View Post

                Delay the podcast a day. You should take full advantage of being able to dress up and knock on doors for free candy!!!!
                We also might show a costume from when I dressed up in the past. Must see tv....or something.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Buffalo/Islander Alum View Post

                  Not really a strawman argument you want to create since UTPB started up football in 2016.

                  Even more so if they win a couple of rounds.
                  Kinda the point. Doesn’t make sense to compare histories when one program has no history. Don’t you think?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Purple Mav Man View Post

                    Kinda the point. Doesn’t make sense to compare histories when one program has no history. Don’t you think?
                    I didn't make any comparisons.

                    You made the comments that road victories were coming without context.

                    If i were referencing playoff games from 1987 then yeah you are correct.

                    From 2019 - present Bemidji has been smoked twice on the road, Augustana and Wayne State once and all by 3+ scores.

                    I think Minnesota State will get a home game before making the trip to Colorado if they hold serve.

                    If we want to be real here the LSC and NSIC Champs are competing to be the sacrificial lamb to Mines in the regional finals.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Buffalo/Islander Alum View Post

                      From 2019 - present Bemidji has been smoked twice on the road, Augustana and Wayne State once and all by 3+ scores.
                      I am not making comparisons so no one bite my head off, but Bemidji did go on the road in 21 and beat a good Augie team that had whooped them earlier in the season. Yes, they got pole-axed the next week, but they notched a road win. Not stoking any fires, just making sure more info was added to the conversation.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Buffalo/Islander Alum View Post

                        I didn't make any comparisons.

                        You made the comments that road victories were coming without context.

                        If i were referencing playoff games from 1987 then yeah you are correct.

                        From 2019 - present Bemidji has been smoked twice on the road, Augustana and Wayne State once and all by 3+ scores.

                        I think Minnesota State will get a home game before making the trip to Colorado if they hold serve.

                        If we want to be real here the LSC and NSIC Champs are competing to be the sacrificial lamb to Mines in the regional finals.
                        At the risk of being accused of making a straw man argument that I am not making, help me understand exactly what you are saying. That because those teams, in the past, have been beaten soundly in the playoffs, that they cannot win on the road this year? Because that is exactly what it seems you’re saying but I don’t want to assume. Again, help me understand.

                        The OP asked for thoughts. I stated my thoughts that if it were to stay exactly how it is (which we all know it won’t) that there would be road wins. To take it a step further, I’d like MSU’s chances at UTPB quite a bit. Also Augie over CWU.

                        However, those matchups likely wont happen, or at least as laid out in the original post. Also agree that this is 100% Mines’ region to lose.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by WPHB View Post

                          I am not making comparisons so no one bite my head off, but Bemidji did go on the road in 21 and beat a good Augie team that had whooped them earlier in the season. Yes, they got pole-axed the next week, but they notched a road win. Not stoking any fires, just making sure more info was added to the conversation.
                          Quit gaslighting!!! ;)

                          Playoff discussions are always the best.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Purple Mav Man View Post

                            At the risk of being accused of making a straw man argument that I am not making, help me understand exactly what you are saying. That because those teams, in the past, have been beaten soundly in the playoffs, that they cannot win on the road this year? Because that is exactly what it seems you’re saying but I don’t want to assume. Again, help me understand.

                            The OP asked for thoughts. I stated my thoughts that if it were to stay exactly how it is (which we all know it won’t) that there would be road wins. To take it a step further, I’d like MSU’s chances at UTPB quite a bit. Also Augie over CWU.

                            However, those matchups likely wont happen, or at least as laid out in the original post. Also agree that this is 100% Mines’ region to lose.
                            They can win on the road but recent history is against it.

                            Colorado Mines has a huge home field advantage, Western Colorado has the altitude advantage, and the LSC Texas teams it can get to 80 degree plus in the fall with humidity and that's a huge advantage.

                            This is where the silo scheduling is somewhat of a disadvantage in the case of we dont really know how good the NSIC teams are until they actually get to the playoffs outside Minnesota State who has a recent successful history and Duluth decades ago.

                            I will eat crow if I am wrong (and I am wrong a lot) but its the same with the second place LSC teams. There is a huge dropoff playoff time.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by WPHB View Post

                              I am not making comparisons so no one bite my head off, but Bemidji did go on the road in 21 and beat a good Augie team that had whooped them earlier in the season. Yes, they got pole-axed the next week, but they notched a road win. Not stoking any fires, just making sure more info was added to the conversation.
                              My comment was more for playing other conference teams on the road.

                              LSC teams used to beat each other in road playoff games and get steamrolled the next week most times.

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                              • #30
                                Do you think playing the silo schedule has hurt NSIC teams in the past? I mean they are preparing for the same teams year in and year out without the experience of preparing for something you’re not used to. Also, they’re used to the NSIC road trips and are comfortable with them, when they travel elsewhere they’re probably out of their comfort zone because they never get to do it. This may be a minor thing but I guess we’ll see if the NSIC will benefit from the experience of playing a non conference game in the regular season.

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